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[67.82.154.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h4sm5834063pbt.10.2011.08.30.08.35.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E5D031E.2000602@xaerolimit.net> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400 From: Chris Brennan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <4E5941D6.9090106@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5BEF65.2010502@gmail.com> <4E5CAD9E.6050903@rktmb.org> <4E5CB49F.50806@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5CBC14.4080908@rktmb.org> <4E5CF1ED.2030504@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5CF417.5080503@rktmb.org> In-Reply-To: <4E5CF417.5080503@rktmb.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=D5B20C0C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig572015F9F53E1A0C9315BCEC" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:35:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig572015F9F53E1A0C9315BCEC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050904060304090304020606" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050904060304090304020606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/30/2011 10:30 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: >>> On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote: >>> But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be= >>> done by a third party. >> I slightly disagree with that. >=20 > No problem >=20 >> Who else than the developer/core team >> members know better about what's >> in and what's not in the FreeBSD box? >=20 > So, for a features listing, it's OK. I really agree on turning it into = a > feature list. >=20 > For a _comparison_, I think it's up to somewhere else: > To really compare, it's mandatory to really now the multiple compared > items. Who cares about the latest MS Windows internals (deep networking= > capability, filesystem tricks, kernel scheduler specs,...) in here? >=20 > I migh be wrong, but IMHO "core devs" and "power users" wont spend time= > to deeply investigate on the other systems. >=20 > Again, just an opinion. >=20 As a casual user and a staunch supporter, I would strongly disagree with you here. if a third party wiki (even Wikipedia) contained such a comparison, I would question it's validity moreso then if the project itself were to maintain a release-based comprison of currently supported branches (7.x, 8.x, 9.x*, etc) vs a selected choice of mainstream Linux Distro's, OS X Server and Windows 2003/2008. But this comparison can't be trivial, it has to be genuine, authentic, (peer reviewed across the board if possible), backed up by fact (links back to other reputable sources). In short, it's a monumental undertaking and may require the work of many dedicated people (new/active marketing team?) It should very much be done by FreeBSD as a project and should be taken seriously as a marketing technique, the object is to show people *WHY* FreeBSD is a sound (and valid) choice against the competition, we can't just claim we're better because we know we are, we have to provide a convincing argument that is true and honest fact. --=20 > Chris Brennan > -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > http://xkcd.com/84/ | http://xkcd.com/149/ | http://xkcd.com/549/ > GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------050904060304090304020606-- --------------enig572015F9F53E1A0C9315BCEC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOXQMlAAoJEO7NmoTVsgwMvTEIALAadXbOAEJ0N/R+Us0kx6La yAJ0TXqEVRDOVfQAIBUjTK0qytyVa7bYwzYn3BYX2BdN66zwTIUTC+PmD/4PuZ1y tWyfwmOryDe6w76yP42DJ6MB/KCAopH5SlyG2/ocZU4Ty+IpgEJHwl+NJ0rQbQ/I dmx3A99pcCXQRaNeDeRdEmxvZn4PPRHd7MgKEX5Z+vcoNuZZ4S0mC/eZb/3bf+Kz FKYgJbYfRJ2kKHLX2ipxQjgWalxgfjsHSImaL63uOIg+ruNZlQnZZfZUVQz0hl9T EG4fpDuIMOkH/yiKMhgXTSVf5UYKg2CRcmkEpY6f7QeH2XcZ5BkfBm5yAHThOOc= =k+Vs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig572015F9F53E1A0C9315BCEC--