From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 9 06:24:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18152 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lucy.bedford.net (lucy.bedford.net [206.99.145.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18147 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from listread@lucy.bedford.net) Received: (from listread@localhost) by lucy.bedford.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04256; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 09:00:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from listread) Message-Id: <199808091300.JAA04256@lucy.bedford.net> Subject: Re: help in convincing management not to supplant Unix with NT In-Reply-To: <199808090309.WAA00774@gforce.bellsouth.net> from Glenn Johnson at "Aug 8, 98 10:09:37 pm" To: gljohns@bellsouth.net (Glenn Johnson) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 09:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-no-archive: yes Reply-to: djv@bedford.net From: CyberPeasant X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Glenn Johnson wrote: > Greetings, > > > At my place of employment, the management team, who are basically computer > illiterate, have decided that there should be no Unix machines providing > network or Internet services, only NT machines. I am trying to convince them > that this would be a mistake. This situation is complicated by the fact that > the Network Administrator does not know anything about Unix and has shown > an unwillingness to learn. Over the last 4 months, the AIX machine that the > previous Network Administrator setup has been running happily without any > intervention, while the NT servers have crashed at least twice a month. I > personally have six FreeBSD machines (workstation usage) that have been running > without any problems; but this does not seem to be enough evidence. > > I, along with a couple of other people are trying to present evidence to keep > Unix systems running at our site. I searched the FreeBSD archives and found the > reference to the article by John Kirsch about Unix vs. NT and have submitted > that to management. I am curious if anybody else has had to go through this > type of nonsense and could provide any pointers. I am particularly interested > in Unix vs. NT for mail service. Microsoft owns Hotmail. Hotmail runs Unix. (Solaris, I think). They tried NT. No soap. Microsoft uses 40 NT servers to handle the FTP load handled by a single-CPU machine at www.cdrom.com (aka ftp.freebsd.org) running FreeBSD. > All pointers and moral support are greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Sometimes a sheaf of letters of resignation from all the clued tech staff helps. (seriously). Now is a good time to change jobs. One of the reasons that NT is used to replace Unix is because pointed-headed managers think they will be cheaper to manage. They intend to fire all the Unix people, and hire "certified droids". They have been assured by M$ marketers that it will be cheaper to run NT. *sigh* the managers secretly believe that the new pimple-faced NT dweebs will be more docile and easily controlled. This is correct. Challenge them to provide a /single/ technical reason to run NT on a server. This won't work though, they already have the evidence. Evidence doesn't matter to these types. They have a "vision". Pfui. Good luck -- post the results! Dave -- Bedford County, PA -- 47,000 polite, friendly Appalachians, 4,000 of whom have concealed-carry permits. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message