From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 21 10:45:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C5F37B503 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:44:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.wemm.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1LIigf26743; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:44:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <200102211844.f1LIigf26743@mobile.wemm.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Robin Cutshaw Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Build timings - FreeBSD 4.2 vs. Linux In-Reply-To: <20010221090207.A11473@intercore.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:44:42 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robin Cutshaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 12:21:26PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > > > Any ideas as to why it would take almost three times longer to build > > > on FreeBSD? > > > > This is probably a silly question, but you did recompile the kernel for > > SMP, right? > > > > Actually, I was using the stock GENERIC UP kernel. I wanted to get a > baseline. OK, but this would have been a good thing to tell us to start with. :-) > > Have you tuned the FreeBSD kernel? It still ships with a worst-case > > configuration so that it runs optimally on i386 cpus. :-( Copy GENERIC > > to something else and remove all but 'cpu i686', rebuild and install. > > Also, get rid of 'sl', and 'ppp' from the kernel config as that messes > > up certain things (interrupt masks). Ideally, do a proper cleanup and > > configure it for your specific hardware (ie: remove all the other ethernet > > drivers, etc). > > > > There's a problem here. I tried to configure an SMP kernel but when it > booted the fxp0 (Compaq dual eepro100 adapter) got timeout errors and > wouldn't work. I went back and did the config/make on the GENERIC > kernel and booted it. Same thing. The stock GENERIC kernel that came > with the dist works just fine. Any ideas? > > One other problem I've seen with the Compaq 8500 system. FreeBSD doesn't > see the pci adapter on the secondary bus. I had to move the ethernet > adapter to the primary bus for it to work. Perhaps the output of 'pciconf -l' and mptable(8) would be useful. dmesg also, after a verbose boot (boot -v at the loader). > > A couple of possibilities.. If you want to compare the two side by side, > > try mounting the freebsd filesystems in async mode, just like linux does by > > default. In particular, make sure you get /tmp, /var/tmp and wherever your > > build is. > > > > OK, I set softupdates on the disk/partition that the build source/target > is on. It made no difference in timing. I then created a memory disk, > set softupdates on it, and mounted it as /tmp. AMAZINGLY, the build > went from 2:50 to 0:40, now much faster than the Linux system. I'm > going to do the ram disk thing on Linux and see if it makes a difference. Are you using the gcc -pipe option for the build? You should. Second, did you try a softupdates fs mounted on /tmp itself? I've found that it makes about the same difference as a ramdisk. gcc's -pipe largely makes that irrelevant though. > Once I figure out the fxp0 problem from above, I'll do a parallel build > and see what speedups occur. > > Thanks! > Robin > -- > ---- > Robin Cutshaw internet: robin@interlabs.com robin@intercore.com > Internet Labs, Inc. BellNet: 404-713-4000 robin@XFree86.Org > XFree86 coreteam/board member > > "Time is just one damn thing after another" -- PBS/Nova > ---- > -- > Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message