From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 11 03:42:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA07312 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07307; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vBf2S-000QnIC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 11:41 MET From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA29874; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:37:51 +0200 Message-Id: <199610111037.MAA29874@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: CT Magazine 11/96 - Unix For Free To: jhs@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:37:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: chat@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Chat) In-Reply-To: <199610102312.AAA19539@vector.jhs.no_domain> from "Julian H. Stacey" at Oct 11, 96 00:12:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Julian H. Stacey writes: > > I don't know if > chat@de.freebsd.org exists, > but that's where this is sent, first off, if it bounces I'll try > de-bsd-announce@de.freebsd.org > > The German CT Magazine will next Thursday 17th October 1996 in edition 11/96 > (yes they're always early the German electronics/computer mags) > have a review article entitled Unix For Free, > it will include Linux, FreeBSD, SCO, GNU. > ( I know SCO is not free & they could have said HURD but didn't, > I don't know why, I'm just an intermittent magazine reader) SCO *is* free, unless you want to use it commercially. I have a copy of 3.2.5.0v2 on CD-ROM. Including exorbitant shipping rates, it cost me approximately $30, or the same as a FreeBSD CD-ROM. Check http://www3.sco.com/Company/Announce/p081996e.htm for further details. > They usually have a few articles on line, maybe this article will be one, > it helps to read German, but even if you can't you'll perhaps be able to > have a quick glance at the Op Sys release numbers, & any graphs & tables etc > & see if they're comparing like with like. > web page: http://www.heise.de > chief editor: cp@ct.heise.de > > I mentioned it now to give any German speaking readers a chance to > perhaps quickly contact Heise, & check facts, I recall Jordan saying once > that Heise were off target (I won't be contacting Heise myself, > I live in Germany but my written German grammar is poor ) Heise is a publishing house. They have several magazines, including iX (a UNIX magazine) and c't (more PC-based). I'm pretty sure that Jordan was referring to iX, and I can heartily agree that they are biassed and inaccurate. I used to write for iX, but I stopped because they kept insisting on changing my scripts to fit their view of reality. c't, on the other hand, is one of my favourite magazines, one of the exceptions to the rule that no there are no good computer magazines in Germany I'm very much looking forward to the report. Sure, there will probably be some inaccuracies, but I'm more inclined to think that we'll get a good view of ourselves from outside ("FreeBSD could be the best, but the poor support for ATAPI CD-ROMs pulled it down to the bottom position"). It's far too late for changing anything. They would have frozen the manuscripts about 14 to 20 days ago. Greg