From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 25 12:31:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229761065674 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091DC8FC18 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aBfA1e00F0FhH24ABCX0V0; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:31:00 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.46.159]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aCWy1e0073S48mS8UCWzz4; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:31:00 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9FA839B425; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:30:58 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Andriy Gapon Message-ID: <20100625123058.GA85800@icarus.home.lan> References: <4C249D60.2050103@icyb.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C249D60.2050103@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Charles Sprickman , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 mainboard compatibility list X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:31:01 -0000 On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 03:13:20PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 25/06/2010 08:26 Charles Sprickman said the following: > > While trying to find how not to get burned like we did with some older > > oddball Supermicro boards, I came across this page: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html > > > > There is a request up top for new submissions (there are no 8.x > > entries), is feedback still wanted? If so, I've got a number of "bad" > > boards to add. > > It seems that the list is very outdated and not actively maintained. Bummer. > > I cannot stress enough how great it would be if this were updated. I'm > > server shopping at the moment and after running into various SMP and > > ACPI issues on some SM boards, I'm quite nervous about committing to any > > particular model or brand. > > Nowadays it is generally expected that any amd64 system should just work. Well, > that should be "almost any", or "typical". There is nothing special about amd64 > anymore. In certain aspects it's even "better" than i386. So, if something > doesn't properly work, then it's "just" a bug that should be appropriately reported. FWIW, I agree with Andriy. If there's a specific model or series of Supermicro boards which are experiencing SMP or ACPI problems, reporting them officially (either via a PR or here on the appropriate mailing lists) would be highly beneficial. If the issues are FreeBSD-related ("7.x works fine, 8.x doesn't!") then I'm sure we can find the correct resources to track down the problem. Also, if the issues turn out to be ACPI-table-related, reporting the issue to Supermicro (and involving them in the debugging and assistance process) would be equally as beneficial. I do have some contacts at Supermicro who handle BIOS issues. I'll follow this thread closely and reach out to them if need be. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |