From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 13 2:52:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6963D37B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB98D43F1E for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by mail.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A7D69; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:52:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BB4EE2FDB16; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:52:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:52:48 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Duncan Anker Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail Message-ID: <20030113105248.GM1196@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Duncan Anker , FreeBSD Questions References: <20030105134445.H96646-100000@dean.goepp.net> <447kdiz6f1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <1041897164.11871.21.camel@duncan.au.darkbluesea.com> <20030110130358.GN1196@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <1042414738.1458.6.camel@duncan.au.darkbluesea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1042414738.1458.6.camel@duncan.au.darkbluesea.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # d.anker@au.darkbluesea.com / 2003-01-13 09:38:58 +1000: > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 23:03, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > # d.anker@au.darkbluesea.com / 2003-01-07 09:52:44 +1000: > > > > > > um ... what's wrong with doing this in /etc/make.conf? > > > > > > NO_BIND = true > > > NO_OPENSSL = true > > > NO_SENDMAIL = true > > > > > > and so on. > > > > > > Seems to be exactly what you want to do > > > > No it's not. > > > > The issue is more complex: Sendmail + DJB's dnscache > > + nameserver 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf + default means of > > starting up the software = broken system: > > This sounds like a different issue - my suggestion was for how to avoid > putting sendmail into the system when you build it. not really a different issue. the OP wanted to be able to [not] install Sendmail, Bind etc. during the initial system setup. that's impossible ATM. plus, replacing part of the base with a port might break your system. Neither makes your suggestion "exactly what you want". > Admittedly, after a default install it's already there and you have to > go and remove it, so yes, there should be an installer option for it. and yes, that's what the OP wanted. > > 1) Sendmail gets started (/etc/rc.sendmail) > > 2) Sendmail looks up it's name (queries 127.0.0.1:53) > > 3) Sendmail gets upset > > 4) dnscache gets started (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/000.svscan.sh) > > 5) too late > > If you need to start sendmail after DJB dnscache, you can disable it in > /etc/rc.conf and start it from a local script, no? yes. that means you must do more than you said originally, and what you said originally is not "exactly what you want". -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message