From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 29 11:10:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F2116A41F; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668DD43D46; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:10:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB6513B624; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:10:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kweetal.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29404-01-9; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:09:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from umta.win.tue.nl (umta.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.100]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5D513B88B; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:08:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002 [131.155.71.72]) by umta.win.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1803431401C; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:08:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 00F8640C0; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:08:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:08:12 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Nick Barnes Message-ID: <20051129110812.GF33851@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <20051129101917.GS963@eucla.lemis.com> <10166.1133260103@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10166.1133260103@thrush.ravenbrook.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tue.nl Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-lists@dclg.ca, Bartosz Fabianowski Subject: Re: Laptop choices X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:10:11 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:23AM +0000, Nick Barnes wrote: > At 2005-11-29 10:19:17+0000, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: > > On Thursday, 24 November 2005 at 11:17:41 -0500, > > freebsd-lists@dclg.ca wrote: > > > > > > On the [Dell] warrenty... I'm hard on equipment and I depend on my > > > equipment. I've been impressed that if I put my foot down and "say" > > > that I believe something needs replacing, then without much fuss, > > > they do it. The next day onsite service is cool. > >=20 > > You obviously have better experience than I do. My Inspiron 6000 was > > apparently used: it arrived without the usual plastic coating on the > > lid, with scratches which couldn't have come from transport instead. > > Also the ejector for the PC Card fell apart shortly after I got it. > > It took them over 3 weeks to get a replacement lid to me, by which > > time I had left for Europe. By the time I get home I will have had > > the machine for 6 weeks, too long to return it, and only then will I > > be able to fight the Dell service department about the ejector. Only > > some time after then will they be able to replace the lid. >=20 > Yeah. >=20 > The "next day on-site service" for my wife's Dell took *two weeks* to > arrive (and replace the motherboard, which we had diagnosed as the > source of the fault after about 10 minutes). Never again. iBook on > order. We have lots of Dell Laptops on-site as we get a university discount. I have seen both sides of Dell's support; sometimes we were serviced *very* quickly, sometimes it took ages just to order a single memory stick. And for the 3 or 4 iBooks that we have around here, support has been different as well. As usual with support, YMMV. As far as the laptops themselves go, I think they're pretty good. Lots of features for a low price, and besides the occasional DOA they are only starting to break down after about 3-4 years of hard service. Do note that we buy the 'stable' Latitude series that doesn't change every other month. Just my EUR 0.02, do with this information as you wish, --Stijn --=20 There are of course many problems connected with life, of which some of the most popular are 'Why are people born?', 'Why do they die?', and `Why do they spend so much of the intervening time wearing digital watches?' -- Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy" --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDjDacY3r/tLQmfWcRApYjAJ9W4Ie8sLilISZTHoErhnrxJI/1iwCgl5hH SABRDRM4Su9feHRTKa14EIY= =4hlY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS--