From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 15 16:09:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 923D7173 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 440DE137B for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0FG9DB6081568; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:09:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0FG9DfR081565; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:09:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:09:13 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Combining pkg and "traditional ports" In-Reply-To: <20140115071739.202648fd.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20140115063634.d6d26d51.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140115135812.7863d575@X220.alogt.com> <20140115071739.202648fd.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:09:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: Erich Dollansky , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:09:27 -0000 On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:58:12 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 06:36:34 +0100 >> Polytropon wrote: >> >>> With the upcoming OS standardization on pkg (pkgng) following >>> the abolishment of the pkg_* toolset I'd like to ask questions >> >> did I get something wrong or does this only affects the binary >> 'distribution'? >> >> As long as the ports are in place, png should have no impact on them. > > No, you're right - ports and packages can still coexist with the > new tool. Programs like portupgrade and portmaster should also be > able to adapt to pkg (registering installed software and so on). > > > >> But if you upgrade your system using packages, you will overwrite >> whatever is on the system and might destroy parts of it as the binary >> installed uses the wrong options. > > That's what I've been fearing. Instead of specifying "nearly all" > packages manually, my idea would have been to "upgrade all with > the exceptions of". See pkg-lock(8) for this.