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Subject: Re: Proposal to change name of this list to a less embarrassing one
To: jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Howard Stacey)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 09:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
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In-Reply-To: <199507050842.KAA00763@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian Howard Stacey" at Jul 5, 95 10:42:45 am
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> 
> 
> I propose we change the list name `hackers' to [ Suggestions Please ].
> 
> The world of journalists & bosses & general public has made up its mind
> a hacker is anti-social, the name thus harms FreeBSD's image.

And the word ``journalists'' in many circles hurts the reputation of
writers who write for periodic publications :-)

> 
> It's hard enough to persuade bosses and friends to use FreeBSD, rather than
> something commercial, it's harder still when one must tell the `Suits':
>   "Your administrator should subscribe to a list called `hackers'"

Don't tell the ``Suits'' that then.  Just tell them there are a large group
of mailling lists for different purposes that there administrators _can_
subscribe to and/or send mail to if they need help.

> The difference between a `hacker' & a `cracker' is something
> no one but us & other techno-freaks knows or cares about.
> We are too few to have a hope of educating the world's press.

Then don't tell the people who don't have a clue about them!  They have
no reason to know or care what we call our lists.

...

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