From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jul 7 11:34:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DC8154A5 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA29193; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:40:56 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Lanny Baron Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, "'Mark L. Holloway'" , kahn@deadbbs.com Subject: RE: Windows NT and it's use in the business world In-Reply-To: <199907071615.MAA14859@freedom.cybertouch.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Lanny Baron wrote: > Hello all, > > After reading the mail below, I must agree with Alfred with respect > to microsofts marketing. Face it, Gates is the marketing man of > the century (for $$). Although I don't really know if FreeBSD per se > has a clause regarding a guarantee or non-gurantee, the NT > system constantly needs to be rebooted when you install most > software. Which, in a corporate environment, could be a real pain. It is a realy pain, the amount of downtime forced onto a company because of NT quickly adds up to thousands and even thousands of thousands of dollars. > I certainly agree and understand with companies using ms > products for workstations. If I owned or managed a company that > needed employees to use programs like Office, I would think it is a > lot more common. To train employee's to use FreeBSD > workstations could be very expensive and I would imagine a lot of > people quitting over it. They don't want to learn (the employees ..) > new (ok not so new but new to them) OS's and how to run Xemacs. > Not only that, most companies I have sent resumes to, expect it in > ms .doc format. Why? So they know you at least can use ms word. This argument against unix has always been total bull sh*t, give someone in marketting a computer with no OS installed and you're being a fool. Two week later they still won't have anything installed. When windows is used not only are the machine pre-configured but then they are crippled severly so someone "doesn't drag the internet into the recycling bin" FreeBSD can also be installed, non-crippled ahead of time for these people, there is no OS to learn, how many people in accounting really know how to change thier IP address in 95? in NT? in FreeBSD? When does this actually matter? I admit the unix desktop need a lot more work put into it in terms of desktop publishing needs before it can offer the richness available in the MS world. Once some real interapplication communication framework is done (gnome and kde are already doing this) you can expect to see some great stuff coming up. > But all that led me to start to learn Samba. Samba with FreeBSD > and you pro's know can out preform NT. It's a matter of marketing > on a personal level to get it going. > > I wonder if any of you have done it. If so, can you tell me your > success story? > > Regards, > > Lanny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message