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From: Anthony Atkielski <atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr>
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Subject: Re: /boot like linux!
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Jesse Guardiani writes:

> Doesn't the boot partition have to NOT have soft updates though?

That's your choice.  By default, it won't, since data loss is more
likely with soft updates (anything that doesn't immediately write
everything physically to disk creates a risk of data loss).  But you can
force it if you wish.

> I created the setup you described about a year ago with 5.2.1, and
> I had serious problems if the system ever hard rebooted after a
> power failure. Single user manual fsck's and all that.

That's what a UPS is for.  You can never guarantee data integrity with
any type of write caching.  FreeBSD attempts to ensure that the file
system directory structure (inodes) is coherent at all times, if not
perfectly up to date, but there is still a chance of data loss in files
if the system is not shut down cleanly.

> I want / + /boot. It's that simple.

Then create them that way.

-- 
Anthony