From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 21:34:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE79106564A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516BA8FC12 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:34:22 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L5X00BVYFX9JF90@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:34:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007210095 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-07-21_08:2010-07-21, 2010-07-21, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20100721212515.GL28385@hendricks.amyl.org.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:34:21 -0700 Message-id: References: <20100721203253.GK28385@hendricks.amyl.org.uk> <20100721212515.GL28385@hendricks.amyl.org.uk> To: Adam McGreggor X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS Control Panel to manage FreeBSD jails ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:34:22 -0000 On Jul 21, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 02:15:43PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> Was there something wrong with webmin? > > I'd rephrase that to is there anything *right* about webmin. > > *hate*, *hate*, *hate*. > > no histories/versioning, straight edits, often-run-on-default-port, > lets-one-change-things-without-understanding-why-it's-a-bad-thing, and > so on. While I have some gripes of my own about Webmin, it was also a significant or even the primary factor in my being able to place FreeBSD fileservers running Samba, LDAP, dhcpd, etc as replacement boxes for Windows PDC/ADC boxes at various client sites over the years, since the locals could do web-based administration of a system without needing to be a Unix sysadmin. Regards, -- -Chuck