From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Sep 17 15:24:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9959CE74D for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@pcbsd.org) Received: from barracuda.ixsystems.com (mail.ixsystems.com [69.198.165.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ixsystems.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EAC21286 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@pcbsd.org) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1442503480-08ca04166b02d90002-XDYc8F Received: from [192.168.0.51] (75-130-56-30.static.kgpt.tn.charter.com [75.130.56.30]) by barracuda.ixsystems.com with ESMTP id nDvv5g2mkXY5PG7t (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:24:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: kris@pcbsd.org X-Barracuda-AUTH-User: kris@pcbsd.org X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 75.130.56.30 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client Subject: Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates? References: <55FA7324.5010603@icloud.com> <09A515F2-44BA-4DF0-9792-D4C56EEB9D7C@FreeBSD.org> <114F22EF-61E3-4D75-84FB-9D6E3FBCB8F3@FreeBSD.org> <20150917131333.GN1247@egr.msu.edu> <20150917134809.GA3025@c720-r276659> <55FAD5EF.5030001@pcbsd.org> <20150917171958.046e4b6b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> From: Kris Moore X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <55FADB38.7000406@pcbsd.org> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:24:40 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150917171958.046e4b6b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Barracuda-Connect: 75-130-56-30.static.kgpt.tn.charter.com[75.130.56.30] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1442503482 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 X-Barracuda-URL: https://10.2.0.41:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ixsystems.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:24:44 -0000 On 09/17/2015 11:19, O. Hartmann wrote: > Am Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:02:07 -0400 > Kris Moore schrieb: > >> On 09/17/2015 09:48, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> El día Thursday, September 17, 2015 a las 10:41:43PM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes >>> escribió: >>> >>>> Same here. I would personally definitely buy new hardware from Intel if >>>> FreeBSD worked on it (not vesa...) >>>> ... >>> What dow you have against vesa? I run CURRENT on some Acer C720 >>> Chromebooks with Haswell chipset in Vesa mode. And you will not note it. >>> I have never ever had such a fast desktop (KDE4) before. I can live fine >>> with Vesa until Haswell suport is there. >>> >>> matthias >> BTW, have you tried the xf86-video-scfb driver? It works much better >> than vesa here. The only catch is you have to be booted UEFI with CSM >> disabled. Using it on my X1 Carbon, gets 3k resolution properly and >> everything. Thanks to Glen Barber for bringing that to my attention. >> > Running that specific driver on several Lenovo HD4600 driven models gives me headaches > and more. This software-framebuffer works - yes, on whatever resolution you might wish, > but it consumes CPU time. That said, I recall that the display was jumpy, slow and > unresponsive when used under heavy load - not even 3k resolution, but with a moderate > lowend of 1980x1080. Interesting, that's been the opposite of my experience here. Vesa was much slower / using more CPU time and didn't give me the native resolution. Switching to scfb made the laptop "usable" for me, at least until we get a proper Intel driver that does Broadwell. -- Kris Moore PC-BSD Software / iXsystems Enterprise Storage & Servers Driven By Open Source