From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 6 12:33:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486E616A41F for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:33:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1EC243D49 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:33:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 84953 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2006 12:33:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iuHefs0zCVgjGokXPhy8Hr+1mhloOcVr5/gCY7ivK+9YQUMLbU2ZzYi0Gg9Y17a5Kra6CSruMEo7wwFOZY1pLvIfaR+1Z9kSYAuvT7yF+MoRtEHqub0F1PohccHKvHket8n/mcKfItpC3OffHdBtA/Z0dpL16Nsuoi8m/euIBBk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?70.30.133.184?) (mikej@rogers.com@70.30.133.184 with plain) by smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2006 12:33:50 -0000 Message-ID: <43BE63E7.4060209@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:34:47 -0500 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Panagiotis Astithas References: <834B3A07-EC76-4645-8E1B-7ABEA4EC999A@submonkey.net> <43BE57E9.9060507@rogers.com> <43BE61C9.9060502@ebs.gr> In-Reply-To: <43BE61C9.9060502@ebs.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Ceri Davies , koma2@lovepeers.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade confused about editors/emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:33:52 -0000 Panagiotis Astithas wrote: > Mike Jakubik wrote: >> If you are using portupgrade-2.0.1 then know that its broken, and >> cant deal with moved ports well. The issue has been brought up many >> times, but it doesn't seem like anything is being done about it. A >> continuing trend for freebsd it seems. > > I think that's a little harsh for a port that has been updated three > times this week. Indeed, the last commit message shows that the > maintainer (CC'ed) was trying to fix the emacs ordering issue. Perhaps > he missed something. > Its not harsh, its reality. If you are going to contribute, don't contribute broken code. If its broken, fix it. If you cant fix it, back it out until its ready. I have been using freebsd since 2.x and i can tell you that the quality of freebsd is slowly declining, more and more broken code is being committed, and its not being address properly. A perfect example of this is the recent RCng commits to 6-STABLE. The ports are clearly not ready for this, yet its been committed and left. Now many ports refuse to work. This clearly breaks POLA.