From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 4 06:15:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A1316A4CE for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 06:15:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.server.rpi.edu (smtp1.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1167943D48 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 06:15:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp1.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j246F1mH006600 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 01:15:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <12498610.20050304062450@wanadoo.fr> References: <200503031839.15265.jesse@wingnet.net> <12498610.20050304062450@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 01:15:00 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.1 Subject: Re: /boot like linux! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 06:15:04 -0000 At 6:24 AM +0100 3/4/05, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Jesse Guardiani writes: > > > Doesn't the boot partition have to NOT have soft updates > > though? > >That's your choice. By default, it won't, since data loss >is more likely with soft updates (anything that doesn't >immediately write everything physically to disk creates a >risk of data loss). But you can force it if you wish. Softupdates is generally turned off for '/', because '/' is expected to be a relatively small partition. Earlier versions of softupdates would behave badly if a partition was low on free disk space, and if you removed a lot of files immediately followed by creating about the same amount of files. This is exactly what happens when you do a 'make installkernel', and that used to run into problems if '/' was tight on space. That is not as much of a problem now, but it is still reasonable to have softupdates be off *if* '/' is a small partition which doesn't get updated very much. I have run with softupdates on for '/' on all my systems, for a few years now. It has not caused me any problems that I know of, but then the way I define my partitions is probably a lot different than what most people do. If we thought that softupdates made it *significantly* more likely that users would *lose* data, then we would not turn it on for any partitions! > > I want / + /boot. It's that simple. > >Then create them that way. It happens that this will run into some problems, as has been described in other messages in this thread. For what it's worth, I (personally) like the idea of having a separate /boot partition, but I have many other projects that are more important to me (personally), so I haven't spent any time looking into this project yet. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA