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From: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
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Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 02:05:04AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 07:48:09AM +0800, David Xu wrote:
> > > > I believe this will add overhead to thread creating and destroying,
> > > > How fast an RTLD can be in this case ?
> > >
> > > In the dynamic TLS model you would like to delay the creation of
> > > the TLS space. Normally __tls_get_addr() gets used for this. In
> > > the static TLS model you allocate the TLS when you llocate the
> > > thread control structure.
> >
> > Lazy binding in this context doesn't make a lot of sense.
> 
> It does. In a process with 1000 threads where 1 thread does
> a dlopen(), you don't want to create 999 TLS spaces if they're
> not going to be used. Besides time, this also is a space
> issue.

If you wanted to save space, you would not be using per thread
storage in the first place.  8-).  Time is only an issue if you
are talking .tdata; the .tbss is all zeroed, so could be allocated
as a very large block, with relatively no initialization overhead.


> Note also that I don't advocate what I think we should do, but
> what the specification is designed for. People have put some
> thought in it...

I understand the specification's intent, both the purely technical,
and the political.

-- Terry