From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 25 15:23:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19768 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19763 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14365; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:20:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703252320.PAA14365@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Terry Lambert cc: jfieber@indiana.edu, jmb@freefall.freebsd.org, langfod@dihelix.com, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool Web page interface to mail + search engine? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:43:06 MST." <199703252243.PAA26044@phaeton.artisoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:20:14 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And the answer is!!! We adopt a new communication form, which is: 1. controlled 2. has clear topics 3. You communicate with a centralized agent who is then responsible for distributing the information be in a web base form , or a a less sophisticated medium such as a mailing list. What I have in mind is a mechanism in which people post formal documents and the discussions are mediated by a "chair person" of the discussion. The random thought walks that we currently have in this list can't be managed by the simplistic mailing scheme that we have. In brief, we are quickly out growing the capabilities of the current mailing list scenario. BTW: Your so call mail header problems are not that difficult to tackle if we control the mail header generation within the mailing list program and tag each mail message with an appropriate header. Next 8) Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Terry Lambert : > > Thats one way of looking at it. However, you seem to imply that > > to thread a topic the date and subject line are sufficient. Yet, > > we both know that people love to wander off in different directions > > using the same subject line. It seems that we need stronger criteria > > for what constitutes a topic in order to have meaningful topic threads. > > > > The difference between your point of view and mine is a matter of > > syntax vs. semantics. > > > > Got another riddle? 8) > > Sure. I have three. > > Say I grant your position above. > > 1) How do you make me change MUA's so I provide you with an > "In-reply-to:" header when you provide me with a > "Message-ID:" header? > > 2) How do you make me change MUA's so I provide "Message-ID:" > headers on all the messages I originate? > > Answers: > > 1) You don't. You can't tell me what mailer I can or can't run. > > 2) You don't. You can't tell me what mailer I can or can't run. > > > Now the third riddle: > > 3) How do you approximate threading, given the above, and the fact > that you only control the list server, not the clients? > > Answers? > > > Regards, > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers.