From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 6 12:45:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A445216A41F for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:45:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch (mailhub03.unibe.ch [130.92.9.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A9943D48 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:45:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (scanhub01-eth0.unibe.ch [130.92.254.65]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBA326444; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:45:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch ([130.92.9.70]) by localhost (scanhub01.unibe.ch [130.92.254.65]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16654-18-28; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:45:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B91025B31; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:45:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from droopy.unibe.ch (droopy [130.92.64.20]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k06Cj88Z007931; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:45:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from roth@localhost) by droopy.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id k06Cj8Ab015009; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:45:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:45:08 +0100 From: Tobias Roth To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20060106124508.GB14967@droopy.unibe.ch> References: <834B3A07-EC76-4645-8E1B-7ABEA4EC999A@submonkey.net> <43BE57E9.9060507@rogers.com> <43BE61C9.9060502@ebs.gr> <43BE63E7.4060209@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43BE63E7.4060209@rogers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Warning! Using Outlook is insecure and promotes virus distribution. Please use a different email client. X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade confused about editors/emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:45:11 -0000 On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 07:34:47AM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > Its not harsh, its reality. If you are going to contribute, don't > contribute broken code. If its broken, fix it. If you cant fix it, back > it out until its ready. I have been using freebsd since 2.x and i can > tell you that the quality of freebsd is slowly declining, more and more > broken code is being committed, and its not being address properly. A > perfect example of this is the recent RCng commits to 6-STABLE. The > ports are clearly not ready for this, yet its been committed and left. > Now many ports refuse to work. This clearly breaks POLA. I agree to the RCng example. How long was it in -CURRENT? Two weeks? Then MFC it over the christmas season, when there is a high probability that maintainers of affected ports might not be around to fix the mess? Not good. greets, t.