From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 29 17:39:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C5C4C7; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6721@twc.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7ADD2AF6; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:39:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=fJG7LOme c=1 sm=0 a=68NkTaeYMVLl2m++3813FQ==:17 a=i4YerQ4AwY4A:10 a=HSsa_qBhwsUA:10 a=DvSzqBOGy98A:10 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=ORzfrLIX98MA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=hDxOVbXN1DwfdmFclnEA:9 a=jjUqNiGvsI0A:10 a=68NkTaeYMVLl2m++3813FQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 74.130.200.176 Received: from [74.130.200.176] ([74.130.200.176:44849] helo=localhost) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C6/82-27973-3378F125; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:38:59 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:38:59 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC? Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:39:01 -0000 > In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=231135&postcount=4 > Would it be a good time to remove those from GENERIC since the > hardware they are for is becoming so seriously outdated? > There's always an option to load those drivers as modules if needed. > -Kimmo These looked useless to me on a desktop computer, but proved necessary to retain just to be able to compile NDIS support into the kernel. This is for a USB wireless adapter by Hiro that uses Realtek RTL8191S chip. Other responses on this topic reveal that these cardbus drivers are needed for many other drivers too. Tom