From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 26 09:38:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4312E106566C for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E3C8FC08 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Qwsrr-000PQ9-AQ; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 13:38:27 +0400 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 13:38:27 +0400 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Brandon Gooch Message-ID: <20110826093827.GA21676@zxy.spb.ru> References: <705869186.20110819012421@serebryakov.spb.ru> <04EEADEE-380F-48A0-BBBF-1A1673228F90@cyberlifelabs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Milo Hyson , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:38:19 -0000 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 07:12:37PM -0500, Brandon Gooch wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Milo Hyson wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Vadim Goncharov wrote: > > > >>> walking all over the competition. šBuzz is a critical part of selling ideas in > >>> open source (for better or worse), and there's no reason we can't play in that > >>> game a bit while maintaining our boring and staid personalities :-). > >> > >> Sure. And taking surveys into account, we could just simply summarize: > >> FreeBSD needs marketing :-) > > > > That begs the question of to whom FreeBSD should be marketed. Home users? Small-office admins? Datacenter admins? Embedded developers? > > > > - Milo Hyson > > Chief Scientist > > CyberLife Labs, Inc. > > > > FreeBSD should be marketed to DEVELOPERS. > > Users of all skill levels have needs, wants, and ideas. Developers are > the ones who implement these things in code. I think the question is > "how do we lure the developers?". Needs for developers: VTune, OpenCL, CUDA, Java sertification platform, more stronge binary compatibility with older version.