From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 23:49:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879D1106566C for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4791A8FC0C for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0284D3D43B; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:49:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p0INn95W002145; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:49:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:49:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Mike Jeays Message-Id: <20110119004909.010f844a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110118183236.691d5146@napoleon> References: <20110118.045706.6321.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> <20110118120534.000012b3@unknown> <20110118204301.d52dfe55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110118183236.691d5146@napoleon> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation OF FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:49:12 -0000 On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:32:36 -0500, Mike Jeays wrote: > I agree about using Kmail with KDE; it is a well-designed > mail program. However, using Kmail with Gnome was a horrible > experience; it drags in and keeps starting up nepomuk and its > friends, and chews up much of one's CPU capacity with apparently > nothing to show for it. Fully agree. In most cases, using big desktop environment *A* prohibits using programs of big desktop environment *B* and vice versa. So if the OP wants to use Gnome in the first place, he can go with Evolution or Sylpheed or Claws (as they are Gtk applications). The same problem appears when you're not using a desktop environment at all (instead a powerful window manager "only") - but if you do, you traditionally will be very picky about the efficiency of the applications you use, so Bloatware doesn't have a chance. :-) I'm sure there are other GUI MUAs out there that are not so aggressive in inviting all their friends when starting up, keeping the system occupied for nothing. :-) > I switched to claws, which seems excellent. I've been a Sylpheed user for many years and just a bit disappointed by the fall of speed and accessibility with the switch from Gtk1 to Gtk2. I do NOT want to say that text mode MUAs can't be easy to use, versatile, powerful and _FAST_. In fact, pine was one of the first MUAs I've ever used, and there's nothing about "it's too complicated" or other stupid nonsense. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...