From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 6 13:20:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DDD16A41F for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:20:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21AB43D4C for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:20:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1EurWR-000KEG-AI; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:20:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:20:47 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20060106132047.GA86645@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Mike Jakubik , Panagiotis Astithas , ports@freebsd.org, koma2@lovepeers.org References: <834B3A07-EC76-4645-8E1B-7ABEA4EC999A@submonkey.net> <43BE57E9.9060507@rogers.com> <43BE61C9.9060502@ebs.gr> <43BE63E7.4060209@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43BE63E7.4060209@rogers.com> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: ports@freebsd.org, koma2@lovepeers.org, Panagiotis Astithas Subject: Re: Portupgrade confused about editors/emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:20:51 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 07:34:47AM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Panagiotis Astithas wrote: > >Mike Jakubik wrote: > >>If you are using portupgrade-2.0.1 then know that its broken, and=20 > >>cant deal with moved ports well. The issue has been brought up many=20 > >>times, but it doesn't seem like anything is being done about it. A=20 > >>continuing trend for freebsd it seems. > > > >I think that's a little harsh for a port that has been updated three=20 > >times this week. Indeed, the last commit message shows that the=20 > >maintainer (CC'ed) was trying to fix the emacs ordering issue. Perhaps= =20 > >he missed something. > > >=20 > Its not harsh, its reality. If you are going to contribute, don't=20 > contribute broken code. If its broken, fix it. If you cant fix it, back= =20 > it out until its ready. I have been using freebsd since 2.x and i can=20 > tell you that the quality of freebsd is slowly declining, more and more= =20 > broken code is being committed, and its not being address properly. A=20 > perfect example of this is the recent RCng commits to 6-STABLE. The=20 > ports are clearly not ready for this, yet its been committed and left.=20 > Now many ports refuse to work. This clearly breaks POLA. While this may be true, it doesn't preclude the fact that you're acting like a spoilt brat on this list over the last few days at least. You might wish to consider being more polite. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDvm6uocfcwTS3JF8RAmrAAJ49arKX0HRHCKuN935GkUSGc76mEACgkf4E FJU8IyzR4sfkNSHCoL7fBrc= =ybFT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0--