From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 17 03:03:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1581816A4DD for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B010B43D58 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:02:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net ([12.207.12.9]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20060717030256m92002t4m4e>; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:02:57 +0000 Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6H32ovR003576; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:02:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k6H32oTo003575; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:02:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:02:50 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: User Freebsd Message-ID: <20060717030249.GB3344@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20060716114546.B1799@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NMuMz9nt05w80d4+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060716114546.B1799@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is 6.x slower then 4.x ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:03:01 -0000 --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 11:49:35AM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: >=20 > I've read/seen reports on -questions about this ... especially in an SMP= =20 > environment ... >=20 > Is there any truth to this? >=20 > One person that posted on -questions pointed out that when he tried to=20 > point out the difference, he was told one of: >=20 > >a. It is either your hardware sucks > >b. your benchmark application sucks >=20 > Now, I don't hold with the 'your hardware sucks' response, as long as one= =20 > is testing on the same hardware, the hardware itself should affect the=20 > results between releases ... >=20 > But, is there any "officially recognized set of tests" that one can use= =20 > that ppl here accept to negate the chances of b? >=20 > Finally, has anyone here done a set of 'accepted tests' and built up a=20 > report that could be linked to from the main page to refute (or=20 > vindicate?) the claims that the newer releases are getting slower? FreeBSD 6 is slower than 4 for some things and faster for others. That should be expected since fine grained locking involves increased numbers of expensive atomic operations (which are particularly bad on Intel P4 and Xeon systems). The gain is that we've got significantly more parallelism in many areas (for example, see kris's I/O benchmarking presented at BSDCan). Looking at it as a thought experiment, you should expect microbenchmarks to perform worse, sometimes much worse. If your application looks like those microbenchmarks that's going to be a problem, if not it may or may not be. In short the black and white question you are asking makes little sense. :) -- Brooks --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEuv3ZXY6L6fI4GtQRAnjWAKCSf54AfVBGuWLBCV/zTqwDjH38NACfX16V rY3hYPCYgofQXxJ2s0hmGa0= =JYG1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+--