From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 18 14:39:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E000387 for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 14:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tim@kientzle.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x22d.google.com (mail-ia0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C07C35B for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 14:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f173.google.com with SMTP id k20so5995589iak.4 for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 07:39:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=GmkY83iXxFKIN0IjrBkVfWlQab1AAa13qgdhHKxy8V0=; b=e+kQRwDeWlh7WZuwwDJsOXG/1bHtEIBILsOXytr8eYe9pryqeJlf/gIStwroIlwZWA b+/USiHsYJgeRbY7k+Q8g+vuDsdMukkqFFkAsI1Uug2yt9IB8HTvQ+Jviiq1gtJJAh0e 0eP87Re9ZIVs6XhHAwwEvCgaI0NW528+hBCO7DU5BhUW7Qf6qr8vCA7W6LExOvP3iWrM 6SrgNkj9t4ABfxe1F48Dwm6Wj6Wp1WaJZxys6RTk9Z+AI96W43mvh3HIlCQRh5xuErgY XMPsAYRy8Jw+xR0U/iPy4mY3RLhz9lJmkbKNGHMsqS/2o9LnlQA4AmTuFR5R3TwXyjfF tPNQ== X-Received: by 10.50.117.7 with SMTP id ka7mr1125237igb.107.1368887954865; Sat, 18 May 2013 07:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.24.137.243] ([137.122.64.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 9sm2454169igy.7.2013.05.18.07.39.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 18 May 2013 07:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Tim Kientzle Subject: Re: Port: U-Boot for BeagleBone Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3A88E57E-E54A-4F9A-B4B2-142891E34F9B"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 From: Tim Kientzle In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 10:39:11 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3B16A2E5-C92B-4248-BE98-DD5C1194CB05@freebsd.org> <86vc6hpb5r.wl%gnn@neville-neil.com> <8DC27DAB-FC30-4152-A408-4D666AD15875@freebsd.org> To: Adrian Chadd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkHEqagrwhsndOKVKojKztB5puX2evBKeZwwNCyCXZwt8JFClJ7YJqC0w9Rk4IEGG1rqT0L Cc: freebsd-arm X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the StrongARM Processor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 14:39:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_3A88E57E-E54A-4F9A-B4B2-142891E34F9B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On May 17, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > This makes it really difficult to potentially support building FreeBSD > images on non-FreeBSD platforms. Maybe not. Even non-FreeBSD platforms should be able to download the FreeBSD package from an HTTP server somewhere. That package file is ultimately just a tar archive with the boot bits inside it. > It also means that people can do things like have out of date builds > of things like bootloaders, mkuboot/mkuzimage, etc. Building from source doesn't protect you from being out of date. I've been bitten several times by having several-months-old U-Boot or FreeBSD sources on my system. > I'm likely going to go the opposite way with my stuff. Ie, if I do > need bootloaders and such, I'll be packaging ... Great! It's always good to have different people trying different approaches to see how they work. Have you given any thought to how to keep bundled sources up-to-date? For example, U-Boot support for new platforms can evolve very quickly sometimes. Tim --Apple-Mail=_3A88E57E-E54A-4F9A-B4B2-142891E34F9B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRl5KQAAoJEGMNyGo0rfFBft8IANTyJTQukAF4MqHIpFFFF57u t1ymIofZbO9l7Ko9sfsP/xsLu5rbTrIFKuPge8u426LHrGGVU4unGCvVZyy1DVGF aGquQ7gBr4WUL/fkTCXtz6+ICQNNG00oncIy7dXtu21nXWN0lHUELhLE6hVtiWe8 h76kJzFJvH+YXQVXnu+1Zm9W49T6Uqfd0tSox6kaMfw9AFmUcGVx9RQBA0e9knf3 xwxyWQjGQry8cKGoTS7otJZiDUyWwLMfyZv/MF1PH0M/5DAxVAam5efIzIjsDZYP wKTwnUxRaWyQeIK1bpQTWEZvp9EoxG8RIC2JUm00hDnyJCOBcsl8HwuGp+VroBo= =jamg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_3A88E57E-E54A-4F9A-B4B2-142891E34F9B--