From owner-freebsd-java Sun Mar 10 7:43:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from puget.esil.univ-mrs.fr (puget.esil.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.41.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F8A37B402 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (hquiroz@localhost) by puget.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2AFndE65430; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:49:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hquiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) X-Authentication-Warning: puget.esil.univ-mrs.fr: hquiroz owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:49:39 +0100 (CET) From: Herve Quiroz To: Bill Huey Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance of Java/FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20020310002939.GB1961@gnuppy.monkey.org> Message-ID: <20020310162926.P65353-100000@puget.esil.univ-mrs.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Under what similar conditions across all platforms ? HotSpot ? or just > the bytecode interpreter ? Have you used any of the open source JITs > like ShuJIT and OpenJIT and compared the results ? As I said to Justen in a recent mail, I coded the whole stuff a crapy way. I mean I assumed the hotspot would do any optimization (amongst them object recycling) on its own so I could code clean without any manual tuning I usually do (mostly for game dev). So it is quite obvious it's my fault if I have found myself disapointed by the speed ;) You're right when saying conditions across all platforms were not the same. I feel guilty to complain just because I tried to use the stuff "as is". > Yeah, right, not a complaint mail my ass. ;) Really, it was my own mistake not to have thought before of the hotspot not being full featured for BSD ;) It is not my intention to have a flame war here because we all agree on the fact that : 1) FreeBSD is powerful 2) Java is nice 3) Java on FreeBSD can be powerful (and probably will - see 4) 4) Java on FreeBSD is already nice thanks to some coders spending their time on it. > Well, things are going to suffer in the BSDs for now, you'll just have > to wait for the port to get finished and there's nothing I can tell you > that can comfort that bad news other than it's being worked on right now. Again I prefer coding/debugging using FreeBSD so thanks for the already working port. Keep on the good work. Herv=E9 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message