From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 20:08:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8EFE7DF; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 20:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7655415BF; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 20:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t07K8Ltr059892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:08:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t07K8KdX059889; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:08:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:08:20 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Acer C720 Chromebook (was: Re: looking for new netbook) In-Reply-To: <20150107083329.GA2063@unixarea.DDR.dd> Message-ID: References: <20141127094342.GA1628@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20150107083329.GA2063@unixarea.DDR.dd> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:08:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 20:08:23 -0000 On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Matthias Apitz wrote: > The keyboard of the C720, in principle a normal PC105, mine with German > layout QWERTZ, is a bit tricky: it has > > - only F-keys from F1 to F10 and they are labeled with symbols for the > ChromeOS applications; > - no hardware power-off (only by an ACPI key which is situated where F11 > would be, i.e. right above the Backspace key, you see the risk :-) ) > - no Windows key which could be used as Modifier-key in X11; > - no PageUP/DOWN keys Ouch. But the older Acer netbooks used Fn+up/down, so probably something similar can be done. Alt+up/down, maybe. When researching this machine a couple of weeks back, I saw somewhere that it was based on a similar existing PC-compatible Acer model, V3 or V5 maybe, or the ES1 series (can't find the reference again, of course). But all of those with 11.6" displays look to have older or less powerful processors, typically the Celeron N2840. The Celeron 2955 in the C720 is about 50% faster. The E3-111-P8DW has a faster CPU, but it is a third-generation N3530. Standard hard drive and socketed RAM, though.