From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Aug 27 21:07:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23521 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-hub.interpath.net (mail-hub.interpath.net [199.72.1.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA23514 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bogus.interpath.net (raleigh-029.interpath.net [207.59.1.29]) by mail-hub.interpath.net (8.6.12/8.6.14) with SMTP id AAA07735; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 00:05:40 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960828040628.00685104@interpath.com> X-Sender: kpneal@interpath.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 00:06:28 -0400 To: Ken Hornstein From: "Kevin P. Neal" Subject: Re: UID < 65535? Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 10:57 PM 8/27/96 -0400, Ken Hornstein wrote: >>Me: When has a BSD-style copyright not been enough to keep code on the net? >> >>Reece: The original CMU AFS code had a BSD-style copyright on it. Where >> can it be found now? >> >>Me: Oh. Is that our pizza? > >The reason that you can't find AFS anymore is because when the AFS >people left CMU to form Transarc, one of the conditions of them buying >the rights to AFS was to remove AFS from CMU's FTP sites and the sites >of other places on the net (I don't quite know how they got the other >sites to get rid of the code, though). Exactly the situation he wants to avoid. >In theory, if you still had AFS-2 source code, you could do whatever >you wanted with it. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmyeahhhh. "if you still had...." grrrrrr. > As I understand it, the copyright hasn't changed >on the AFS-2 code that was on the net (however, the code was probably sold >to Transarc _not_ under a BSD copyright - you can release code under as >many different copyrights as you want). I don't see how the GPL would >have changed this scenario at all. A! The bullet to his argument. Thanks! >I'm not a lawyer, and I have no first-hand knowledge of the above >information; this is all bits and pieces I've heard from various sources. Sigh. What we need are some Hacker/Lawyer dual-class programmers out there, or is that not allowed by the rules (I'm looking at a pile of AD&D books here...). -- XCOMM Kevin P. Neal, Sophomore, Comp. Sci. \ kpneal@pobox.com XCOMM "Corrected!" -- Old Amiga tips file \ kpneal@eos.ncsu.edu XCOMM Visit the House of Retrocomputing: / Perm. Email: XCOMM http://www4.ncsu.edu/~kpneal/www/ / kevinneal@bix.com