From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 25 22:58:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862BE37B409 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (sbk-gw.sibnet.ru [217.70.96.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5486A4417A for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:45:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) Received: from sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (localhost.sibnet.ru [127.0.0.1]) by sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2Q6jtuI054204; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:45:55 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) Received: from localhost (stranger@localhost)h2Q6jsRA054201; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:45:54 +0600 (NOVT) X-Authentication-Warning: sbk-gw.sibnet.ru: stranger owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:45:54 +0600 (NOVT) From: "Maxim M. Kazachek" X-X-Sender: stranger@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru To: Chris Pressey In-Reply-To: <20030325233425.43baf76a.cpressey@catseye.mb.ca> Message-ID: <20030326123745.I54180@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> References: <200303260353.h2Q3rXpE028440@drugs.dv.isc.org> <20030325233425.43baf76a.cpressey@catseye.mb.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-27.6 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,X_AUTH_WARNING autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Resolver Issues (non valid hostname characters) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:58:47 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:58:47 -0000 On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Chris Pressey wrote: >On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:51:44 -0600 >David J Duchscher wrote: > >> I can't talk to some hosts on the internet because FreeBSD will not >> resolve the host name which over 99% of the host on the Internet will. >> I guess that just doesn't matter. >> >> DaveD > >I don't get it. > >If I run a non-standard web server, I wouldn't expect to be able to >serve web pages to standard user agents. > >If I use a non-standard host name, why should I expect to be able to >be reached by standard resolvers? > >i.e. You can't talk to some hosts because their host name is broken. >The problem is on *their* end, just as if they were running a >gratuitously incompatible http server. How is this FreeBSD's fault? > >(I must admit I'm a little biased... I can't bring myself to seriously >believe that a host with an underscore in its name could possibly have >anything to offer that I'd be interested in...) > Well, I had a lot of practice with Micro$oft Windows' DNS implementation and I've ran flawlessly with hostnames (and, of course, NetBIOS names) with underscores... I may say it looks "better" than names without it or with minus sign... It's MHO, of course... Many of OSes permit underscore in host names... By the way, why hostname with underscores can be resolved when it in /etc/hosts, but it can't be resolved when it in Microsoft's DDNS implementation... Microsoft doesn't complain about it both on server and client side... To track standard we must "filter" those hosts in ANY case, I think... We don't... Then we must do something with this situation, I think... Sincerely, Maxim M. Kazachek mailto:stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru mailto:stranger@fpm.ami.nstu.ru