From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 15:38:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82958B13 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2058FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qAQFcWBP024303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:38:33 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk qAQFcWBP024303 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/qAQFcWBP024303; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <50B38CF8.7060603@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:38:32 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When Is The Ports Tree Going To Be Updated? References: <50B2A57A.3050500@tundraware.com> <50B2A8D8.90301@FreeBSD.org> <50B2AA07.8090103@tundraware.com> <201211251856.40381.lumiwa@gmail.com> <50B2BEE1.9030903@tundraware.com> <50B31AAB.6000903@FreeBSD.org> <50B36500.7040308@tundraware.com> <50B377F4.1020507@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:38:37 -0000 On 26/11/2012 15:13, Michael Powell wrote: > As a result of the security incident I switched away from csup and am now > using portsnap for ports, and svn for source. The only disconcerting item I > noticed is the 500-some MB .svn directory now under /usr/src/. SVN keeps a 2nd pristine copy of everything you check out in that .svn directory. It's necessary when you use it for development work, but otherwise, as you say, a waste of space. > Can using freebsd-update for source update(s) eliminate the need for this > 500MB waste of space? Or is there some switch for svn which could accomplish > same? freebsd-update will have some overhead -- it downloads changesets to somewhere under /var before expanding them onto the system. I haven't measured how much this amounts to compared to SVN, but I'd assume if you limit yourself to updating just the system sources with freebsd-update then it should use up less space than using SVN. Normally freebsd-update would have updates to compiled programs as well, which could move the goalposts significantly. Cheers, Matthew