From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 19:34:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA66B1065675; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D1F8FC14; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1QyU4O-0008Tb-KH>; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:34:00 +0200 Received: from e178029245.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.29.245] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1QyU4O-00074l-HM>; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:34:00 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5D3B28.1060103@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:34:00 +0200 From: "Hartmann, O." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110825 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <4E5CB1E9.9080801@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5D0DD3.20606@FreeBSD.org> <4E5D24DE.8050909@FreeBSD.org> <4E5D2854.1030305@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.29.245 Cc: freebsd-current , Dimitry Andric , Alex Kuster Subject: Re: CLANG; still cc in use when building the WORLD with CLANG? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:34:01 -0000 On 08/30/11 21:27, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Hartmann, O. > wrote: >> On 08/30/11 19:58, Dimitry Andric wrote: >>> On 2011-08-30 18:44, Alex Kuster wrote: >>>> Thanks for pointing out those details ! >>>> This whole thing about make.conf& src.conf is very confusing and gives >>>> the >>>> impression of something half ported ... >>> The only thing that is "half ported" at the moment, is an easy "use >>> clang to build world" switch. This will be properly addressed after 9.0 >>> is released. As to the make.conf/src.conf confusion, it is very simple >>> really: >>> >>> - make.conf is used for system-wide settings, applied to every build >>> using make. >>> >>> - src.conf is used for setting FreeBSD source tree settings, which are >>> always of the form WITH_XXX or WITHOUT_XXX. See src.conf(5) for a >>> full list. Any other "make" settings, such as CC, CFLAGS, etc, are >>> better specified in make.conf, though the manpage does not tell you >>> so explicitly. >> This is as I understood the manpage of src.conf. There is only a YES/set and >> NO/unset. > No. There is only set and unset. WITH_option="NO" has the same effect as > WITH_option="YES". > > I think this is confusing and often leads to unintended > consequences, but I and also say that some of the WITH_options documented > for src.conf (the man page is auto-generated from the code) are either > non-functional or broken. I've had some interesting issues with unexpected > interactions of WITH_options, as well. Be very careful! Sorry being so unprecise. I meant WITH_ and WITHOUT_. I learned the hard way that setting a variable to "be set" is simply done by naming it. Well, as I understand your comment, it seems that this /etc/src.conf facilty isn't working properly yet?