From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 15 10: 1:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1770C37B401 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.trigger.net (ns.trigger.net [204.50.18.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7A243E91 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikej@trigger.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.trigger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41D730913; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mike (wettoast.org [204.50.18.204]) by mail.trigger.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 755B730912; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:01:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: "Eugene Grosbein" , Subject: RE: Ifconfig config of gif tunnels Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:00:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20021015235427.B381@grosbein.pp.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also think this is a bad idea. I have always ran build/installworld and mergemaster in multiuser, and ive never had any problems with the process. This reduces downtime significantly and also allows for remote upgrades. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Eugene Grosbein Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:54 AM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ifconfig config of gif tunnels On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 05:32:50PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > (1) It just overwrote system files that users are not supposed to > > change anyway, like files in /etc/defaults and the /etc/rc* > > files. > Additionally, I think it might be a good idea to make those > files schg by default, and teach mergemaster to noschg/schg > them if required. A possibility of running mergemaster in multiuser is essential. Playing with system immutable files when securelevel>0 is trick. Currently temproot cannot be cleaned up after mergemaster due to $temproot/var/empty when securelevel>0 but that's not big deal because it's empty :) However, having configs/scripts marked as system immutable will bring more pain and break POLA, imho. Eugene Grosbein P.S. Yes, I known that running installworld and mergemaster is not supported and is not recommended but this works most of time and this possibility is very, very valuable thinking about downtime. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message