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Date:      Thu, 12 May 2005 08:38:23 +1000
From:      "Matthew SWINBOURNE" <m.swinbourne@its.uq.edu.au>
To:        "FreeBSD Clustering List" <freeBSD-Cluster@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: Introduction & RE: Clustering with Freebsd
Message-ID:  <5B5BBC864783B7439264DD5FF664F2A969F31D@jemima.soe.uq.edu.au>

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Hi All,

Something to think about along these lines are TCP Off-Loader (TOE)
cards.  If you are seriously looking at ATA over ethernet or something
similar on any production scale, then these cards are a life saver.
Reduce the CPU overhead of running storage via TCP/IP to almost
negligable.=20

Cheers,
Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Craig Lewis
Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2005 2:01 AM
To: FreeBSD Clustering List
Subject: RE: Introduction & RE: Clustering with Freebsd

Brilliant, this sounds like a great alternative to iscsi! ?  So
potentially the 6.0 release might contain aoe? On roughly that time
scale?

I have had extensive discussion on another list about building a free
bsd based mail server. Since currently our mail server is not that
heavily loaded I was thinking I might could get away with gigabit, NFS,
and maildir format to 'share' the filesystem between the nodes. Then as
we grew as a company, maybe we could better afford network attatched
storage, and maybe there would be better support in bsd for things like
iscsi or now AOE. Yes, I know the TCPIP stack and gigabit would consume
lots of cpu, but both of these are getting cheaper and cheaper, and
again.. .we are not even close to a high load situation.=20

Any one have comments, experience, or suggestions on the above, or an
even better way to share file systems on io intensive servers like mail
servers. ? I would be interested to hear any summary reports on using
network attatched storage on freebsd. i.e. lessons learned.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Christian
Brueffer
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:42 AM
To: Phil E.
Cc: FreeBSD Clustering List
Subject: Re: Introduction & RE: Clustering with Freebsd

On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:25:43AM -0600, Phil E. wrote:
> Hello all,
>=20
> My name is Philip Elder. I reside in St. Albert Alberta, Canada.
>=20
> My wife and I run our own I.T. business here primarily focused on
Windows
> infrastructure though I still use the command line more than the GUI.
:D
>=20
> I am pretty green when it comes to FreeBSD. I am learning, slowly. My
goal
> is to build clusters, cluster based storage solutions, and some other
ideas
> jumping around in my mind. I chose FreeBSD because of its stability.
BTW, I
> do not have any programming experience at this time but I am willing
to
> learn to as well. I do have a fair amount of server based
infrastructure
> design, implementation, and support experience though (I've been in
the
> industry since the early 1990's).
>=20
> I have been doing a lot of research and am wondering if perhaps this
may be
> a place to start as far as a file system foundation:
>=20
> http://wiki.ethereal.com/ATA_20Over_20Ethernet
>=20
> Here is more from the developer:
>=20
> http://www.coraid.com/documents/SATAEtherDrive.pdf
>=20
> Please feel free to let me know if I am way off base here as this is a
good
> way for me to learn! ;)
>=20

Hi Philip,

the author of that ATA over Ethernet driver has been a committer for a
few month and will probably import it into the source tree.

- Christian

--=20
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