From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 17:57:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506D516A41F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:57:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E06043D46 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:57:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j96HvUOf015076; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:57:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4345658B.3070002@samsco.org> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:57:31 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050615 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuomo Latto References: <43455D3E.5040007@mbnet.fi> In-Reply-To: <43455D3E.5040007@mbnet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new FreeBSD-webpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:57:47 -0000 Tuomo Latto wrote: > Alexander S. Usov wrote: > >>>Just pointed firefox to freebsd.org and I was greeted with a new look! > > ... > >>And in general, I have already heard from quite a lot of people today that >>the old design was quite authentic and recognizable, while the new one >>looks as a quite standard portal. > > > Yecch. All ugly and businesslike. This is what you'd expect from > all sorts of companies that are all marketing and no information. > > > You'd expect popups from the links on the top (they look like that > sort of links), but none seem to appear and I've just wasted time > waiting for them to appear. > BTW, I pretty much hate popups because they seldom work > properly and they always seem kind of sluggish. Only thing that's > worse than having to use them is having something that looks like > them but is not. > > > A lot of stuff has been removed from plain sight which means > more clicking and scrolling and searching and waiting. > Oh yes, let's all start burying information.. > > Having some of the information hidden in plain sight is a nice > touch. I mean that release stuff and "shortcuts". > The marketing BS filter behind my eyes blocks most of the content > on the site pretty well as it is but that release stuff and > "shortcuts" seem to have been designed to get filtered out. > It actually requires me conscious effort to read them. > > > With Opera, about 40% of the screen space is left unused. > I *liked* the quick links the old one had on the sides. > > > Have you tried it with lynx? > Lynx Version 2.8.5rel.1 (04 Feb 2004) doesn't seem to handle XML, > so when you're in a pinch with your fw/gw machine that doesn't have > X installed and you quickly need to access eg. some documentation > on the site, you're out of luck. > I tried it with lynx, links, camino, opera, safari, and mozilla. All rendered nicely. It even rendered acceptably on my Treo650. Can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time. Scott