From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 5 04:07:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED171065670 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 04:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@dataix.net) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5428FC08 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 04:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so16010280obb.13 for ; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 21:07:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dataix.net; s=rsa; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=wY7h9cmvC3AwXotARXcI+/eAMnBdDtsx9DkC5zvMYzw=; b=Ff//0E83PMbm6+cmo92eMa5IMMhphFLU90/xoyKfiDicj/jff4H2WB1hUa0bqS23f3 yrfJXlNRlfPypyPIu6R9LXxgzHJpe59SnrXV903Zr8+6CEGcd8Hb+WzKcumREU1eh9Ze QHwGqELnvmotqnoiFeQA8aOxpdnLEYLAodJ+4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-gm-message-state; bh=wY7h9cmvC3AwXotARXcI+/eAMnBdDtsx9DkC5zvMYzw=; b=X2Sdct1SL7vVKPvqNfLLrdmlXpN01Vgwm6UiuRukN7NRVshvHqD+P8WLkgeQO1LQO3 TGgFyAI4290xn5wtf3NQkhEjdYNhvJCk8EUS4evSuVSAGqHsqfGJ9QaEocPJ+IchpTiU Bw15C+/BwgYI/HHxJOCHlZLXv0zdwKE0xBrhgIxfDYarmgcla+DgLpjdCggPkodBrMs1 qaz5dU+CU1TavBEt6NCJCBclxhlR+V/2J3EoN+J6lPUePO62jWZsQv+lzokfjToPL6Wp mfE0xu/32lqWs7iPEginLFw1GUWNG5dn2xfliTAfZMHzcLHKLQrIL392FzGor/NCdsLL XHlA== Received: by 10.50.237.1 with SMTP id uy1mr13180648igc.18.1341461232281; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 21:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (adsl-108-73-115-46.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net. [108.73.115.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z3sm15450138igc.7.2012.07.04.21.07.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 Jul 2012 21:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q654799m070835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Jul 2012 00:07:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhellenthal@DataIX.net) Received: (from jh@localhost) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q65478Ml070834; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 00:07:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhellenthal@DataIX.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 00:07:08 -0400 From: Jason Hellenthal To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20120705040708.GB392@DataIX.net> References: <20120704185104.GA42355@DataIX.net> <4FF4B36A.2040608@FreeBSD.org> <20120704180134.7c649e1b@bhuda.mired.org> <4FF4BEED.10103@FreeBSD.org> <20120704225519.GB19945@DataIX.net> <4FF4CAD1.8080804@FreeBSD.org> <20120704234104.GA392@DataIX.net> <4FF4D570.7020002@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FF4D570.7020002@FreeBSD.org> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlaVCE60sbJ+xYjRkjipb4GHXWC7QtejLOA29h6tIYyH3A9I3qsH3Ex+yF/lvV2RgPmLf1u Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer Subject: Re: install-prompt for missing features (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 04:07:13 -0000 On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 04:44:48PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > On 07/04/2012 16:41, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 03:59:29PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 07/04/2012 15:55, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > >>> Seeing as sudo plays a big part of this > >> > >> No ... not only is sudo not a necessary component, it shouldn't be > >> involved at all. The feature works on debian/ubuntu for regular > >> userspace commands. > >> > > > > What are they using to authenticate for the install ? do you know ? > > Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant. Certainly you'd need proper > permissions for installing something. > > What I meant was that the concept of prompting for uninstalled stuff > does not, and should not require sudo to be involved in any way. > Agreed. I didn't make that quite clear. Most of which I noticed from my very limited use of Fedora in the past since the only thing that was being installed was already built packages is the use of sudo to elevate privelages thats just why I refered to it in that manner. -- - (2^(N-1))