From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 25 2:45:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C6737B40B; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 02:45:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@paradox.demon.co.uk) Received: from paradox.demon.co.uk ([194.222.29.33] helo=pinky.paradox.demon.co.uk) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15PLE4-00049g-0K; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:45:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Chris Gilbert To: Terry Lambert , Dave Feustel Subject: Re: FreeBSD for ARM processor Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:45:05 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , "David O'Brien" , "Stephane E. Potvin" , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010722124327.C575@zeus.videotron.ca> <001501c11460$9511c430$fa9f173f@dafcopreqlqo05> <3B5E74A8.4FC67BC9@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3B5E74A8.4FC67BC9@mindspring.com> Organization: NetBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01072510450500.07630@pinky.paradox.demon.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday 25 July 2001 8:26 am, Terry Lambert wrote: > Dave Feustel wrote: > > Strongarm-based pcs designed by Chalice Technologies > > http://www.chaltech.com are available from Simtek > > http://www.simtec.co.uk/ > > No pricing anywhere that I could find. I believe that they cost about 700 ukp for a complete system (simtec do still sell them) the board alone is 350ukp (the reason for the cost is that they don't mass produce them to the same scale as pc motherboard makers) However you can get them second hand for less. AFAIR my 2nd hand box was about 400 ukp (cats board, case, psu, network, graphics, new 40GB hard disc), note that the 2nd hand box has the rev S chip with the ldmib bug, but that's not been shown to be an issue. One issue with them is that the memory is fairly specific on the timing front, and number of banks, eg it has to be PC66 in one slot, and also 2 banks, but if you leave that slot empty you can use PC100 and 4 bank in the other slot. Your also limited on graphics capability, I believe that mach64 and S3 cards work. Others may also work. The issue is that the BIOS has to emulate enough of an x86 for the graphics card to startup. Simtec have said they may improve/expand the emulation to allow them to boot more recent cards. -- Chris Gilbert chris@netbsd.org Portmaster, NetBSD/cats http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/cats/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message