From owner-freebsd-security Sun Oct 8 13: 3: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AF837B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.211.149]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:01:46 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98K31m83260; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:03:01 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: David Talkington , "freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Check Point FW-1 Message-ID: <20001008130301.U25121@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <200010080427.PAA19412@cairo.anu.edu.au> <4.3.2.20001008070308.00b9ae90@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20001008070308.00b9ae90@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 07:13:17AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 07:13:17AM -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: [snip] > Another reason why they may not wish to go with "in-house" talent is the > idea to out source. Companies do this so they don't have to pay for a > full-time employee or reallocate internal resources for projects. In some > cases it is worthwhile. Other times it's an endless black hole. Can only > blame the suits for taking this idea too far at times. Another reason, and this is not necessarily the management's fault, is the lack of qualified people available. At least this is the case in many, if not most, parts of the US. There are a lot of qualified people who are only interested in doing contract work. If you have the choice of hiring, (a) no one, (b) a not-qualified full time person, or (c) a qualified contract person, for a job that needs to be done NOW, what choice does management really have? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message