From owner-freebsd-security Sat Sep 18 0: 0:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FC715867 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.39] (helo=softweyr.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11SETv-0004RS-00; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:00:23 -0600 Message-ID: <37E33885.B2B42D8C@softweyr.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:00:21 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Brett Glass , security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BPF on in 3.3-RC GENERIC kernel References: <37E32365.B9F9573B@softweyr.com> <4.2.0.58.19990917201820.046f09e0@localhost> <4.2.0.58.19990917160519.047cc890@localhost> <4.2.0.58.19990916185341.00aaf100@localhost> <199909172208.QAA05554@harmony.village.org> <199909180244.UAA07013@harmony.village.org> <199909180612.AAA00597@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <37E32365.B9F9573B@softweyr.com> Wes Peters writes: > : Worked for me. A well-written, accurate analogy too. > > I'll have to try again later... I'd be very interested in this. I > personally think that schg is useful against accidental mistakes, but > flawed in implementation. Agreed. It's a good tool, but isn't going to stop somebody who's both clever and dedicated. A similar facility in VMS didn't stop Kevin Mittnick from stealing the VMS source code from my ex-boss. ;^) > Although some of that may be due to inperfections in /etc/rc and > friends. I think a lot of the system startup just happened, rather than being designed from a security standpoint. I'm attempting to land myself a job where I would be paid to fix this, among other things. I'll let you all know if/when it happens. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message