From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 2 23:33:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132831065673 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02658FC16 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E8AD5C21 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:45:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F023DE1.9080703@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:29:37 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201112302138.pBULcZfw076474@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4EFF19A7.2060800@ose.nl> <4EFF94CA.3050304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101064247.3e8b0b56@scorpio> <4F00580D.1060208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101091420.117aa8f3@scorpio> <20120102065526.GA16481@hemlock.hydra> <20120102083114.6c09d839@scorpio> <4F01B81E.1070802@gmail.com> <1325542778.15616.YahooMailNeo@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1325542778.15616.YahooMailNeo@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mailing list and personal assaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 23:33:02 -0000 On 01/03/12 08:19, Bill Tillman wrote: > I agree. A mailing list like this should not fall to the lowest common denominator. And I would like to add that while this community seems to be an exception, far too often someone wastes bandwidth and bytes by telling the person with a question to RTFM. I just finished a rather complicated project which took me days to resolve and several times when I asked questions there was always some wise crack at hand who would make the commen that "if you just RTFM" everything would be fine. In this case the manuals were lacking and most of the data was obselete or irrelavent to the project I was conducting....kind of like FreeBSD documentation. That is unfortunately the case more often then not. There are use cases out there, but a lot of times the description of actually config variables is obscure. I'm hoping to try and fix that, but its on a todo list. I'll post something when I have it up and running.