From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 08:00:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F81D1065672; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1A68FC17; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o3K80hXW071471 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:00:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BCD5F2B.4050705@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:00:43 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <20100420154455.G14495@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4bcd52f8.05g7tnWntHqFWB7u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4bcd52f8.05g7tnWntHqFWB7u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: postmaster@freebsd.org, smithi@nimnet.asn.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:00:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 20/04/2010 08:08:40, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > >> Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week or so >> after having posted to freebsd-questions@ ? Since around early >> April? >> >> I've had four such in the last three days ... >> >> If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more widespread >> I'll ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try hunting the errant >> recipient. >> >> cheers, Ian >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> Your message: >> To: twelcome@mobileemail.vodafonesa.co.za >> Subject: Re: reliable rs-232 >> Sent Date: 25:05 +0000 >> has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld. > > Now that you mention it, yes. A posting to "freebsd-questions@" > about 01:00 (US Pacific) on Apr 06 did not get one of those, but > one about 01:10 on Apr 08 and three (one about 01:00, two about > 19:10) on Apr 09 did. The first notice turned up at 20:16 Apr 16, > and the other three between 20:13 and 20:15 on Apr 17. All four > specify the same recipient address as yours. I've seen exactly one bounco like this -- but only after grepping through lots of mail logs and my junk folder. One bounce is bad enough if it goes back to the whole list -- but that could be excused as a momentary aberration. Any more than that is grounds for reporting the message to postmaster@freebsd.org and having the sender blacklisted: anyone that configures a mail server to send error notifications to an entire mailing list needs a) to spend some quality time studying the SMTP RFCs and b) to step away from the keyboard /now/ as they are clearly not competent to run a mail server on the Internet. Thoroughly recommend using relaydb(1) to teach your mail system where you've received spam from in the past and make sure it doesn't happen again. I've a cron job that processes the contents of my Junk mailfolder through relaydb on a daily basis. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvNXysACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyXUACePmgSgAlJrUyEH+Oo2N0PO7PT QL4An1S4zQ8Dj44oW5n9bgVD7XIxYl8p =P6az -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----