From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 6 13:49:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA02069 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from black.gensys.com (black.gensys.com [204.52.135.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA02064 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jhupp@localhost) by black.gensys.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA00465; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:48:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:48:59 -0600 From: jhupp@gensys.com (Jeff) To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as T1 router References: <3.0.32.19970106151911.00a82cd0@etinc.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.55 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970106151911.00a82cd0@etinc.com>; from dennis on Jan 6, 1997 15:19:13 -0500 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dennis writes: : At 11:34 AM 1/6/97 -0800, you wrote: : > : > "Everyone" uses Cisco and "the net" sucks, so what does that tell you? : >d) That Dennis is still slinging mud instead of facts. : : For 1, these are "Facts"....every time there is a problem at my upstream : provider it is some issue with their Cisco router. That, is a FACT. Wonderful, perhaps they just don't know how to configure it. My upstream runs ciscos, and I have had about 90 minutes of total down time from them in the last 14 months. The cisco at my end just sits there and works. Note the period. : : Fact 2 is that its not even being used as a high-end box (an HSSI : running only 4Mbs, a couple of T1s and a couple of ethernets)...a : configuration achievable with a FreeBSD box for about 1/10th the : price. No, what is your time worth? And how much of it have you put into that box? : : My "point" was that there is no such thing as a magic box....there are : problems/advantages/disadvantages to all products. Those that think : if they buy Cisco or Ascend that they wont have any problems are : misinformed. : Very true. They will just be different problems. The problems with the ciscos are common problems, problems the 'community' as a whole are dealing with, problems that others I am in contact with have worked through or are working through. There is also the tendency to point fingers, let me tell you I would much rather say, "You want to look at my cisco's config?" then "You want to look at the config on the FreeBSD box I made into a router?" when dealing with inter-operability problems... -- Jeff Hupp | Coffee is Life. PGP public key available at http://www.gensys.com/jeffskey.asc Running Microsoft? What do you want to fix today?