From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 6 17:00:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC3516A41F for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 17:00:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AD943D48 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 17:00:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Euuwi-000HjU-EE; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:00:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 17:00:08 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20060106170008.GG86645@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Mike Jakubik , Panagiotis Astithas , ports@freebsd.org, koma2@lovepeers.org References: <834B3A07-EC76-4645-8E1B-7ABEA4EC999A@submonkey.net> <43BE57E9.9060507@rogers.com> <43BE61C9.9060502@ebs.gr> <43BE63E7.4060209@rogers.com> <20060106132047.GA86645@submonkey.net> <43BE97F4.90504@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KZLWU/9q3evlN4nQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43BE97F4.90504@rogers.com> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: ports@freebsd.org, koma2@lovepeers.org, Panagiotis Astithas Subject: Re: Portupgrade confused about editors/emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:00:13 -0000 --KZLWU/9q3evlN4nQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Ceri Davies wrote: > >On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 07:34:47AM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > =20 > >>Its not harsh, its reality. If you are going to contribute, don't=20 > >>contribute broken code. If its broken, fix it. If you cant fix it, back= =20 > >>it out until its ready. I have been using freebsd since 2.x and i can= =20 > >>tell you that the quality of freebsd is slowly declining, more and more= =20 > >>broken code is being committed, and its not being address properly. A= =20 > >>perfect example of this is the recent RCng commits to 6-STABLE. The=20 > >>ports are clearly not ready for this, yet its been committed and left.= =20 > >>Now many ports refuse to work. This clearly breaks POLA. > >> =20 > > > >While this may be true, it doesn't preclude the fact that you're acting > >like a spoilt brat on this list over the last few days at least. You > >might wish to consider being more polite. >=20 > You're right, apologies to everyone for that. It's just that i have been= =20 > using FreeBSD for a long time, and i don't want to switch to Linux, I'm= =20 > just very disappointed with the way things are lately. There is a=20 > plethora of problems which are not being addressed, while new code and=20 > features are being committed. A lot of performance issues have been=20 > reported lately, briefly discussed, but nothing has been resolved.=20 > FreeBSD needs to step back and work on current problems, once these are= =20 > addressed we can go forward and develop new features. If i only had the= =20 > programming knowledge, i would be happy to help. So all i can do is=20 > point the finger and test. Thanks for the apology; it's good that you care! It sounds like somewhat of a cop-out, but please, if you are having problems for more than a day or two, file a PR. That way, at least the issue doesn't get lost in the mailing list archives. Cheers, Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --KZLWU/9q3evlN4nQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDvqIYocfcwTS3JF8RAqhCAJ9Rx+VgDZSSHoj9VYNcxN5rsF5pJwCdH60V PyRfnAphxe/rXW9ngvZCDAQ= =6d38 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KZLWU/9q3evlN4nQ--