From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 6 23:06:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D60116A41F for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 23:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niclas.zeising@gmail.com) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2438813C45B for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 23:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niclas.zeising@gmail.com) Received: from [81.237.210.63] (81.237.210.63) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.075) id 4656A99000A05A37; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 23:56:35 +0200 Message-ID: <468EBACA.40905@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:57:30 +0200 From: Niclas Zeising User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evren Yurtesen References: <468EA80C.70208@ispro.net> In-Reply-To: <468EA80C.70208@ispro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 100s of xorg ports, will there be an xorg-base port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:06:27 -0000 Evren Yurtesen wrote: > Hi, > > I think it would be nice if you could make an xorg-base port which will > have the minimal ports installed. Most of the programs like xeyes etc. > are not needed, it is ridiculous to install a port for each! > > Plus, most people are not happy to add ~400 more ports to their FreeBSD > boxes. I even read that somebody is planning to change to Linux because > of this mess. > > Is this a planned change? I think the whole idea of xorg going to > seperate packages was reducing the size and modularize xorg. When we > install all anyhow, makes no sense at all. > > Thanks, > Evren Why not make your own xorg-base? After all, it is modularized, and you can add/remove the different parts as you want (mostly). The source to the ports tree is completely free and you are free to make your own changes. But please post it here. What is the mess you are talking about? I know upgrading from 6.9 to 7.2 was a little hassle, but overall i think flz and the people with him did a _HUGE_ amount of work, both to get everything working and to make the upgrade as smooth as possible. This is a very planned change, and a huge leap forward for FreeBSD as a desktop OS. With the new xorg you can use OpenGL accelerated wms and much more. If you think a lot of ports is installed unnecessarily, modify the makefiles to suit you, or remove the apps you won't need. the xorg metaport still contains roughly the same as the old one, only now everything is a separate port instead of a big kludge. Regards! //Niclas --