From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 03:12:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3492106566B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8797F8FC1C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:12:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so7299280iwn.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:12:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mob9mJBimo/+0XSGPT3vX7ahcJYWjoW8ONNO++Bd15k=; b=qGDVXZNRrgDqCBajmv0AzBE4APt9ihDxVVgq9FoOZbtnJ5XSO+hKSN8A4x1fyryCWk Z/aXQs5V0UrRYoQOrKxSuWXp2CrT/6pjvekoN5ey0XJ01zblm/ojFpZiWWHbnduyu+HF 6DS4VzVMuBWXh8aR2oOtBKWe83dfq9hOvnnNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nn5hv0nxzy9gjV/bvCVvGMG3AHQZwspH+wi8/SBL4CwlK9L5Htm1EHEaqP9z7ga/T8 OfDK9MFt+PN5oCOk1I4NdrPPcxb/qKRtAMbh9iKoIWqeStkbwDC9Q3CRwd/uOtzX4q8k sNE3ticPn2VQv426jJVfp3Wab9RTCa5sMZyeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.157.131 with SMTP id b3mr2073196ibx.19.1262056352893; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:12:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B394BEA.40008@netscape.net> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <4B393F6F.9060607@netscape.net> <4B394BEA.40008@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:12:32 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:12:36 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 16:23, Kaya Saman wrote: So, given what you've written below, you probably know more about this stuff than I do. Cool. I will echo the advice already given, however: add dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf. That will most likely clear your problem. >> Did you install gnome from source, or did you use 'pkg_add -r'? I >> don't know why, but I seem to have better luck, though it takes much >> longer, if I use 'make install' from the ports tree. >> > > I used pkg_add! Am such a package manager guy as although have compiled > quite a bit of stuff I find on some systems such as Sun Solaris compiling > can be a nightmare. Especially if it means hacking out source code and using > special make parameters as I'm not a programmer but also not that far > advanced when it comes down to building software from scratch! > >> >> I'm not far along that learning curve myself. Heh. >> >> I started on an old Toshiba laptop with 256mbytes RAM, and Freesbie >> worked well on that. I then learned how to install from scratch. That >> was, um, interesting. I hated Linux, as it seems so arcane. Well, >> perhaps 'hate' is too strong a word, but it left a bad taste in my >> mouth. Once I worked with FreeBSD, it became much more clear. Things >> seem to be done more sanely in FreeBSD. Now I have a nice 4gbyte >> Lenovo T61, and I still like xfce4 - it does what I want, and I didn't >> want to expend the effort to learn anything new. >> > > Well, Linux has its advantages and for the last 2 years have completely used > it as an M$ Windowz replacement as one can do almost everything on it. When > I meant; not used to doing things from scratch I meant building the OS. I > actually prefer doing a minimal install of CentOS with no software or GUI at > all and then building the system up to what I need when it comes down to > servers!!! > > Means I can fine tune the system that way and only use the system resources > for what I need. That's what I do with mine under FreeBSD, for both servers and workstations. > Being a user of both Solaris and Linux though, they are both pretty cool > with Solaris only hindered by lack of software and multimedia apps. > Otherwise I think Solaris in Open guise would win anyday provided that the > H/W support was as vast as Linux. I need to dive back into Linux - I want to figure out Xen now that it can do live migrations/failover, and FreeBSD doesn't do Dom0 - yet. So, I'll probably try out CentOS, though I suppose I could use NetBSD. > Wish there was something more, new and interesting but they're all a bit > bland after a while. Gnome I find is more functional! > > If anyone has any idea of getting something like they use on TV shows like > NCIS and CSI that would be really cool (not Hollywood OS) or something they > use in the military that one sees on the discovery channel say on the US > Navy ships. > > I mean I do develop GUI's for the OpenSolaris spin-off distro Belenix which > can be seen here: > > http://www.optiplex-networks.com/belenix/index_belenix.html > > under themes. > > But really need a new concept of completely tricked out geeky 'suped' up WM. > Lot's of bar graphs, text outputs and other really cool stuff embedded into > it :-) - no need for Gkrellm or Conky or Torsmo anymore! Eh. I just want something that works and keeps out of my way - xfce seems to do that just fine. For me, 'cool' is the apps and what I can do with them. Kurt