From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:14:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0A516A4CE; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:14:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao08.cox.net (lakermmtao08.cox.net [68.230.240.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B39C43D54; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:14:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by lakermmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050319191440.WJHE18351.lakermmtao08.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:14:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:15:38 -0600 To: "Joe Marcus Clarke" References: <20050319030449.GG4271@freebsdmall.com> <1111210527.41721.40.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1111215080.97034.9.camel@tomcat.kitchenlab.org> <1111215496.41721.58.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1111255523.97034.24.camel@tomcat.kitchenlab.org> <1111259397.12556.6.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1111259397.12556.6.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Linux, build 955) cc: gnome@freebsd.org cc: Murray Stokely Subject: Re: fam X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:14:44 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:09:57 -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 10:05 -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: >> If memory serves me right, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >> >> > Alas, we used to have a section about this in our (FreeBSD GNOME) FAQ. >> > However, since we enabled FAM support by default in gnomevfs2, we >> > dropped it. I think it would be worth adding back in as its own FAQ, >> > but I'm not sure if that's the best place to disseminate the >> > information. >> >> Well, I'm strongly influenced by my ex-RE-ness, but I'd think that the >> release notes would be one (but not the only) reasonable place to put >> this. We already have a note for the 2.10 upgrade, and I think that it >> could use a little more explication vis a vis: >> >> 1. The gnome_upgrade.sh script no longer upgrades ports that GNOME >> depends on (but are not parts of GNOME itself). Users may need to >> manually upgrade certain ports (for example, using portupgrade(1)) >> before running the upgrade script to ensure that they are compatible >> with GNOME 2.10. Specific examples are devel/libtool15 (1.5.10_1 or >> later required) and print/freetype2 (2.1.9 or later required). > > This is not the case. the gnome_upgrade.sh script _should_ have > upgraded all ports on the system. There was a problem with old pkgdbs, > however, that caused this to break. Adam committed a fix, but it was > too late for most. > >> >> 2. GNOME includes support for the File Alteration Monitor (devel/fam) >> by default, in order to improve the GNOME desktop's ability to respond >> to files being added, deleted, or modified by other programs. To take >> advantage of this functionality, FAM must be enabled in inetd.conf(5). >> More information can be found in ports/devel/fam/pkg-message. > > This I'm adding as a GNOME FAQ. This is beautifully stated. > >> >> Picture the above two paragraphs just below the existing GNOME entry in >> the release notes, with appropriate SGML markup. I assumed that the FAM >> change is a new one (between 5.3 and 5.4), right? > > I think the first is not needed anymore, and I would rather see a link > to the FreeBSD GNOME upgrade FAQ at > http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq210.html, and/or our main FAQ at > http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html. I don't think enough > people know we have substantial documentation available for GNOME on > FreeBSD. I think, we need to add FAQ link in the x11/gnome2/pkg-message to kill people's excuse of not know about it. Cheers, Mezz > Joe > >> >> Bruce. -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org