From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 27 10:20:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B9216A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:20:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469AB43D2D for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:20:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Cirzc-0005mV-Mn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 05:20:48 -0500 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBRALdhi077676 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 04:21:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBRALdLr077675 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 04:21:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) X-Authentication-Warning: joeandlane.com: lholcombe set sender to lane@joeandlane.com using -f From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 04:21:39 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <20041226212114.K81983@trhj.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <20041226212114.K81983@trhj.homeunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412270421.39537.lane@joeandlane.com> X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79987677eaf375fbae440b70dab1a09f42350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Re: 5.3: want to install XFree86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:20:49 -0000 On Sunday 26 December 2004 23:31, Theodore D. Sternberg wrote: > I've had it with Xorg and would like to go back to XFree86. > Unfortunately, when I go to /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 and type "make", it > doesn't do anything; it just gives me this message... > > ===> XFree86-4.4.0_1,1 is part of XFree86-4. > > and exits. > > XFree86 was giving me everything I needed, back under FreeBSD 5.1. Xorg, > in contrast, is one huge hassle. "Xorg -config" produces an xorg.conf.new > file that doesn't work (I have ATI Rage 128). Then, reading some of the > traffic on this mailing list I see talk about preloading AGP and ATI from > /boot/loaders.conf, and I know I'd be getting in way too deep if I did > that. > > To further confirm my ignorance, I'll ask this: what exactly is Xorg? Is > it just a different X server (and associated configuration tools)? Or is > it something more broad-based than that? > > If I succeed in building an XFree86 server, can I just make the > appropriate symlink -- /usr/X11R6/bin/X --, install my old XFree86.conf > file in /etc/X11, and run with that? Or is it going to be more > complicated? > > Ted Sternberg > Fremont, California > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hey, Ted. X.Org is/are the guys that originally developed, and now maintain the X window system. The X window system is the base upon which most window managers sit. A window manager is the thing that we call a "desktop" .. like KDE, fvwm2, gnome, sawfish, and several others that are lesser-known. If you are using FreeBSD 5+ then Rage support is built into the kernel and/or automatically loaded at boot and will be available to you if you install X from ports. The message you are getting seems to imply that X is already installed ... although you just about have to be a mind-reader to know it. The reason I say that is because I get the same message, and I *know* that X is installed over here. Here's what I'd do ... and to be sure, others will say NOT to do this ... but here goes: cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 make deinstall make clean make all install clean login startx good luck! lane