From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 18:31:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E29106566C; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7738FC08; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7LIVZOs041393; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:31:35 GMT (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bapt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7LIVZtc041391; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:31:35 GMT (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: bapt set sender to bapt@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:31:32 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20120821183132.GJ5044@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20120820194313.GC23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120821132643.GE37262@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20120821134623.GH5044@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <5033D0C0.4030805@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ofZMSlrAVk9bLeVm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5033D0C0.4030805@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pkgng 1.0 release schedule, and HEAD switch to pkgng by default schedule X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:31:35 -0000 --ofZMSlrAVk9bLeVm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:17:36AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > On 8/21/2012 6:46 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > I would also like to just remove pkg_* tools from RELENG_10 if that fit= s the > > schedule. >=20 > Um, no? >=20 > Until pkg becomes mandatory (which can't happen for several years) the > pkg_* tools can't be removed altogether. >=20 > What _would_ be useful is what should have been done many years ago when > it was first suggested: Move the pkg_* tools to ports. >=20 > It's too late for 9.1 already, but if you made that change today in > HEAD, and after 9.1 (but before 8.4) you MFC it to stable/[89], then you > could theoretically make pkg mandatory after 9.1 EOLs. >=20 > To make my point more clear, the ports tree has to support the last > release to ship with pkg_* tools in the base throughout its lifetime. To > do anything else would be be a massive POLA violation. >=20 > Doug >=20 > --=20 >=20 > I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do > something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what > I can do. > -- Edward Everett Hale, (1822 - 1909) that is what I meant of course, sorry if I badly said it at first Bapt --ofZMSlrAVk9bLeVm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlAz1AQACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EyOSQCcCqNHoKOuooxpf2PVr62Dlz65 z14An1MF8LFu2wkrANjxZbP5DZyXvSEJ =UC3c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ofZMSlrAVk9bLeVm--