From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 8:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4110737B77A; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:39:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@search.sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id D81E3DCDD; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC233DCDC; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server Farms? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Changes under src/sys/ are the ones which affect the kernel (and those > with "RELENG_[34]" are the only ones which affect [34].x) > > > I'm thinking of the way many commercial OS's release patches, like bsdi. But some of the userland stuff is tied to the kernel changes, so if there are 50 changes in a month and three of them change something in src/sys/somewhere I'm kind of stuck. If I want to install all the latest userland programs I have to relink the kernel and reboot, right? And most of the time, once we're past the .0 releases, there aren't that many kernel changes needed for stability or security which would legitimately require a reboot, so rebooting monthly to just stay up with userland patches isn't really warranted. Not installing patches because they fix problems *I* don't have, and trying to keep all the dependencies coherent sounds unworkable, as does fully understanding what's changing and installing new userland worlds believing the new kernel really isn't necessary. Anyone see any alternatives? Thanks, --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message