From owner-freebsd-security Sat Sep 18 21:20:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFB714F3E for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.39] (helo=softweyr.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11SYSQ-00056w-00; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:20:10 -0600 Message-ID: <37E46478.6326218E@softweyr.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:20:08 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Glass Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Warner Losh , security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Real-time alarms References: <199909180612.AAA00597@harmony.village.org> <4.2.0.58.19990918093306.047917c0@localhost> <4.2.0.58.19990918201409.047f9f00@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass wrote: > > At 08:04 PM 9/18/99 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > >This is what we're talking about with the auditing facility. There are > >a lot of architectural issues to be solved, starting with "what is an > >alarm" and ending with "how do I securely transmit the alarms to those > >who need to know about them"? > > > >Fun stuff, eh? > > Indeed. Fortunately, many of the tools are already available. E-mail comes > to mind as the simplest solution to the above, though certainly not the > only one. Too clumsy, it pretty much has to be a stream-oriented protocol. Can you image trying to generate an email message for ever open(2) call that failed? OTOH, it probably has to be a multicast protocol, because you may want notifications to go to multiple targets. This was one of the major problems with SYS$AUDIT in VMS, all it did was append to the audit logs. Of course, many vendors, including my former employer, made a good living developing audit log watchers that could make some intelligent decisions about what was appearing in the logs and generate mail messages, page people, etc. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message