From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 29 22:24:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1132B16A42F for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:24:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@syz.com) Received: from mail.clearwave.ca (h139-142-194-114.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [139.142.194.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9599E43D67 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:22:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@syz.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.clearwave.ca [127.0.0.1]) by mail.clearwave.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EBD10378FC for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:22:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.clearwave.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.clearwave.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 67037-06 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:21:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.2.108] (h139-142-196-33.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [139.142.196.33]) by mail.clearwave.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6318510378F8 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:21:56 -0700 (MST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <20051129204524.C626D16A41F@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20051129204524.C626D16A41F@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6740EFFC-3303-4030-A175-2348A7067F9A@syz.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dan Charrois Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:22:13 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at clearwave.ca Subject: Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:24:06 -0000 Rutger Bevaart wrote: > Same here on several 1750's, 1850's and 2850's. Tomorrow I'll > disable USB > in the BIOS on one of the 1750's and see if it makes a difference. > It's > the only one of the set that I could get downtime for because it > rebooted > yesterday ;-) I've disabled USB in the BIOS on my 2850 much earlier on when I was getting interrupt storms, since I didn't need USB anyway. It solved the problem of the interrupt storms, but it didn't seem to have any impact on the mysterious unsolicited rebooting problem. Claus Guttesen wrote: > It's not any comfort to you but I have two Dell PE 1750's running very > reliable using FreeBSD 5.4 stable as of Wed. the 28'th of Sep. 2005. > It has two Xeon at 3 GHz, 2 GB RAM, a LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 Adapter. > HTT is *off*. > > HTT does not yield any higher performance for most purposes. I can > send you my kernel if you want. It actually may be a comfort, since perhaps HTT is related to the culprit. Since the last crash, about a month ago, I disabled HTT, both in the kernel as well in the BIOS. So as far as I know, it's completely been disabled (and the boot messages and top only show 2 CPUs). And I haven't had the system go down for nearly a month now. Of course, I also did some other things at the same time, so it's unclear as to which specifically may have helped. I had noticed that in the past it had rebooted itself twice right while running mysqlhotcopy as root during a period where the server may have been rather heavily loaded. So in addition to turning off hyperthreading, I also changed the time when mysqlhotcopy was running to a period likely under a lighter load, and modified things so it isn't running as root any longer. Not that I think mysqlhotcopy was the culprit itself, but it does cause a fairly large burst of disk activity when it is running, and it does seem to be related to triggering the event, at least in my situation. In any case, since I've done those three things, I haven't had a crash yet. Of course, the lack of a result doesn't prove anything, but the more time that passes, the better I feel. That is until one day I wake up to find that it died again. In any case, if that happens, I'll know more things that the problem isn't related to.. Vivek Khera wrote: > I'd recommend running the Dell diags. They're pretty good at picking > out hardware trouble, which it sounds like the OP is having. In my case anyway, I have run the Dell diagnostics, and they showed everything to be just fine.. Kevin Oberman wrote: > As far as I can tell, hyperthreading is not much of a win for > anyone. See hte > article at: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/ > 0,39020330,39237341,00.htmhttp://news.zdnet > .co.uk/0,39020330,39237341,00.htm > > It reports that HTT slows performance even on threaded and, > theoretically HTT > ideal apps. (And this was with Windows.) So I've heard. I was hoping that hyperthreading might be able to help a dedicated MySQL server handle a bit higher load, but I never had the chance to benchmark it with and with hyperthreading before I had to put the machine into production. So it's disabled now - it can't hurt the stability of the system and can only potentially help it. Time will tell. Thanks for your replies, everyone! Dan -- Syzygy Research & Technology Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada Phone: 780-961-2213