From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 19:56:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C34B106567F for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52798FC1C for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadr6 with SMTP id r6so130939dad.13 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:56:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=ASGAishuJChgTSinHinIAIgasSFCqRYqJDZ0tplCWog=; b=p17w8pYAhEXhOP+1CJlw3thvJcpMn0tEHtsHO8VP/9kIVa1oMv8ekEqSrnYkOix3ow 56rpIkTaUcA1ygaOREYxOBWmil3sn24QtXEnnF5Tc4yyTwnyGYcqphzUXNKQy1AxzGpy eAIbR6oyQm8H6WnX13VQXW7H0Zt3+kcAdegKob4sqK8UrQ+4f69hOS8rktZwoTl64W+m 5AGUG4ldT/bfJkAl0T/9J5qVA0hpiYLrvSlBV/WvkgTr3HeZgYicY9+TGxkSHmPZ8TsR sFRDv3MOrc2hyaL5gvT9GsgTwWtNb3T0Mph/7BJ0cYsf/dW2hIoiT9jmlTY5hg/PneCP oJ8g== Received: by 10.68.201.73 with SMTP id jy9mr47529318pbc.124.1345578974312; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fusionlt2834a.int.fusionio.com ([216.51.42.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ox5sm2031416pbc.75.2012.08.21.12.56.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20120821124623.GC88729@zxy.spb.ru> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:56:11 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9481DE65-1249-4EE1-96E0-222ADD46B2E6@bsdimp.com> References: <20120821095527.GA33206@hell.ukr.net> <67977762.20120821154035@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1243982625.20120821154548@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20120821124623.GC88729@zxy.spb.ru> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmTUDiLE6gdrd+i+RiLm6Ua98aWLJRJHqs95hIC78FHIdS5VxrD5SvlT25z/C2t9/cvZBdq Cc: Garrett Cooper , Lev Serebryakov , current@freebsd.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: r239356: does it mean, that synchronous dhcp and dhcplcinet with disabled devd gone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:56:15 -0000 On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 03:45:48PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >=20 >> Hello, Lev. >> You wrote 21 =C1=D7=C7=D5=D3=D4=C1 2012 =C7., 15:40:35: >>=20 >> GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ = know. >> LS> I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment = alone), >> LS> that dhclient will not work without devd anymore (with = "synchronous >> LS> dhcp" option in rc.conf). >> LS> Am I right? >> Also, I don't like idea of removing IP address from interface when >> cable is unplugged. It was very disturbing behavior of Windows >> machines for years. I've unplug cable to change switch port for only = a >> second and all connections are broken, even if one second later >> dhcpclient receive SAME lease! I don't like this. FreeBSD was very >> tolerant to unplugging cable for eons, and I (and not only me) like >> it. If I understand this change properly, it is no more the case :( >=20 > Not only cable. > Turn on microwave, lost WiFi connection and lost all open ssh > session (and other network connection). mosh helps. Warner